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Update: As I suspected, this thread over on Catholic Answers got shut down. What's interesting is that they deleted a number of posts (including mine) and allowed the discussion to end with "Rosinante" getting the last word. It's fascinating that they would allow someone unrestrained mocking, and then allow them to get the last word. As my friend Algo taught me, with Catholic Answers, one needs to always make backup copies.

Update (12/29/12): More editing has occurred over on the Catholic Answers discussion from which the posts below were taken. It appears all the posts below are now deleted. The discussion now ends with a moderator stating, "Return and stay on the topic...". The discussion is still locked and closed. Having myself been a large discussion board moderator in the past, that's a fair move. I'm not sure if anything I posted here had anything to do with it (I doubt Catholic Answers cares what I post), so whatever their reasons, they did the right thing.

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One of the folks on Catholic Answers showed their appreciation for my blog entry, Did Luther Regret the Reformation? after it was recommended:

Yesterday, 11:55 am

Rosinante  New Member Join Date: July 21, 2010 Posts: 77 Religion: Catholic

Re: Question to our 'seperated brethren' (protestants), who deny Mary, Theotokos Quote: Originally Posted by JonNC  And the same to you. Be Blessed! May I suggest the following: http://beggarsallreformation.blogspo...formation.html Jon That's just patently embarrasing. First, you pretend to be ignorant of any such claims ("...I doubt you'll be able to [produce] any credible sources")... ...then you refer me to "Yeah, but, but, but.DOT COM", a cite virtually acknowledging a multitude of such quotes from Marty (then lamely trying to spin them, or explain them away). Thanks anyway for the link--was good for a few laughs... But next time, may I kindly suggest owning that you are aware of Marty's various back peddles, but simply have a your own spin on them, to wihch you subscribe (or I'm sure you'd rather phrase it as you disagree with my characterizations thereof, or conclusions drawn therefrom....). Okham's razoor however, suggests rather compellingly, that Marty meant what he said--not what protestants wished he had meant by what he actaully said. VIVAT JESUS!

Today, 9:36 am

TertiumQuid  Regular Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 626 Religion: Reformed

Re: Question to our 'seperated brethren' (protestants), who deny Mary, Theotokos Quote: Originally Posted by Rosinante  That's just patently embarrasing. First, you pretend to be ignorant of any such claims ("...I doubt you'll be able to [produce] any credible sources")... ...then you refer me to "Yeah, but, but, but.DOT COM", a cite virtually acknowledging a multitude of such quotes from Marty (then lamely trying to spin them, or explain them away). Thanks anyway for the link--was good for a few laughs... But next time, may I kindly suggest owning that you are aware of Marty's various back peddles, but simply have a your own spin on them, to wihch you subscribe (or I'm sure you'd rather phrase it as you disagree with my characterizations thereof, or conclusions drawn therefrom....). Okham's razoor however, suggests rather compellingly, that Marty meant what he said--not what protestants wished he had meant by what he actaully said. VIVAT JESUS! I'm the unembarrassed author of "Yeah, but, but, but.DOT COM" whom you say "lamely" spins and explains away multitudes of Luther quotes in order to provoke laughs. I suggest before you make such remarks on a public forum, you actually provide cogent examples to prove your opinion. Saying something and proving something are two very different things. JS

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Today, 10:07 am

Rosinante  New Member Join Date: July 21, 2010 Posts: 81 Religion: Catholic

Re: Question to our 'seperated brethren' (protestants), who deny Mary, Theotokos Quote: Originally Posted by TertiumQuid  I'm the unembarrassed author of "Yeah, but, but, but.DOT COM" whom you say "lamely" spins and explains away multitudes of Luther quotes in order to provoke laughs. I suggest before you make such remarks on a public forum, you actually provide cogent examples to prove your opinion. Saying something and proving something are two very different things. JS First, I didn't suggest you did it to 'provoke laughs'--that's just the reaction your cite provoked in me; Second, the point is that Luther actually made many of these comments, and the poster to whom my post was directed, feigned ignorance about the statemets (like me, feigning ignorance about the inquisitions); Third, the mere existence of your cite, indicates the need to 'explain away' Luther's back peddling. VIVAT JESUS!

Today, 10:45 am

TertiumQuid  Regular Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 627 Religion: Reformed

Re: Question to our 'seperated brethren' (protestants), who deny Mary, Theotokos Quote: Originally Posted by Rosinante  First, I didn't suggest you did it to 'provoke laughs'--that's just the reaction your cite provoked in me; Second, the point is that Luther actually made many of these comments, and the poster to whom my post was directed, feigned ignorance about the statemets (like me, feigning ignorance about the inquisitions); Third, the mere existence of your cite, indicates the need to 'explain away' Luther's back peddling. VIVAT JESUS! Rather than quibble about justifying your feelings and your harsh comments towards my website, I'll once again point out the obvious: before you make such remarks on a public forum, you actually need to provide cogent examples to prove your opinion. Saying something and proving something are two very different things. Here's your chance to substantiate your comments. Give me one example from the link that was suggested to you by JonNC and prove what I wrote was an exercise in explaining away Luther's back-peddling. Remember, this is "Catholic Answers". Here's your chance to prove that your Catholic answer to someone like myself is meaningful and convincing, and a reason why the Roman Catholic worldview is true. Simply saying "the mere existence of your cite, indicates the need to 'explain away' Luther's back peddling" is neither meaningful or convincing. It's simply an unsubstantiated opinion. JS

Today, 10:54 am

Rosinante  New Member Join Date: July 21, 2010 Posts: 81 Religion: Catholic

Re: Question to our 'seperated brethren' (protestants), who deny Mary, Theotokos Quote: Originally Posted by AbideWithMe  No, this isn't true. You're showing your own ignorance here. As just one example of my point, one of the most extensive, accessible sources of the writings of Early Church Fathers on the internet is at CCEL, which is a Protestant site. I'm well aware of the protestant *attempt* to pirate the Church Fathers, particularly from the Calvinista camp (to which the author of "yeah but but but.dot com' acknowleged he belongs). My comment however, was directed at the poster's comment that citing this or that obscure source, carried no authority with pro's.--that could refer to various personalities grouped within the rather broad groupoing known as Church Fathers--especially since they cover a period in excess of the existience of protestantism itself. So, now, after 500 years of sola scriptura, every man his own pope, the wrongness of 'traditions of men'...blah blah blah., ...our seperated bretheren now seek to invoke the Church Fathers' 'traditions of men', as not only authoratative, but in support of their own anti-Catholic views? Some how, these very same authority figures whose words carry addtional weight due to their cred amongs the Church...somehow, they were always arguing for sola scriptura, and never really respected Sacred Tradition.. That's just laughable...even if not intended to be funny...  VIVAT JESUS!

Today, 12:24 pm

TertiumQuid  Regular Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 628 Religion: Reformed

Re: Question to our 'seperated brethren' (protestants), who deny Mary, Theotokos Quote: Originally Posted by Rosinante  I'm well aware of the protestant *attempt* to pirate the Church Fathers, particularly from the Calvinista camp (to which the author of "yeah but but but.dot com' acknowleged he belongs). "Calvinsta camp" appears to be meant in a mocking way. I note this based on the context of the comment from which it came, which mentions that those who are not Roman Catholic express views which are "just laughable...even if not intended to be funny." JS