Monday, February 23, 2026

Luther Against Transubstantiation and Roman Catholics Using Him on the Real Presence

Roman Catholic apologists utilize Martin Luther's comments about the Real Presence of the body and blood of Jesus Christ in the Lord's Supper. His comments seem to suggest a strong point of unity with Roman Catholicism as well as a broad rejection of the views of many contemporary Protestants. He's portrayed as being on Rome's side. It's an attempt to cause cognitive dissonance aa a means to convert people to their side of the Tiber

I see their Luther's Real Presence argument as a clever way to corner many Protestants. They say, "you believe in sola scriptura? Look what your founder says about the body and blood of Jesus Christ!" Unfortunately for them... their argument suffers fatal flaws if viewed within their worldview. Using this argument places them in direct denial of Roman Catholic infallible authority.

Luther's seeming unity with Roman Catholicism disintegrates in two ways. First, Luther's opinion on transubstantiation demonstrates his lack of unity with Rome's infallible pronouncements on transubstantiation.  Second, Luther's broader comments on Rome's liturgical presentation of the Lord's Supper (the sacrifice of the Mass) demonstrate he wanted nothing to do with attending a Eucharistic presentation in a papal Roman Catholic church. 

In this entry, we'll first take a cursory look at what Rome says about transubstantiation and secondly, we'll look at what Martin Luther said about it. In a future entry, we'll dive into Luther's rejection of the sacrifice of the Mass.   

The Roman Catholic View of Transsubstantiation, a Brief Primer
To be obedient to Rome, you are required to believe that which was pronounced by the Fourth Lateran Council in 1215:

His body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the forms of bread and wine, the bread and wine having been changed in substance, by God’s power, into his body and blood, so that in order to achieve this mystery of unity we receive from God what he received from us.

The Council of Florence (1431-1439) stated, "Substantia panis in corpus, substantia vini in sanguinem (Christi) convertitur" (the substance of bread is changed into the body of Christ and the substance of wine into his blood).

 This was reaffirmed after Luther's death by the infallible Council of Trent:

CANON I.-If any one denieth, that, in the sacrament of the most holy Eucharist, are contained truly, really, and substantially, the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ; but saith that He is only therein as in a sign, or in figure, or virtue; let him be anathema.

 CANON lI.-If any one saith, that, in the sacred and holy sacrament of the Eucharist, the substance of the bread and wine remains conjointly with the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, and denieth that wonderful and singular conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood-the species Only of the bread and wine remaining-which conversion indeed the Catholic Church most aptly calls Transubstantiation; let him be anathema.

These statements were succinctly summarized in the authoritative Tridentine Creed of 1564:
I profess, likewise, that in the Mass there is offered to God a true, proper, and propitiatory sacrifice for the living and the dead; and that in the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist there is truly, really, and substantially, the Body and Blood, together with the soul and divinity, of our Lord Jesus Christ; and that there is made a conversion of the whole substance of the bread into the Body, and of the whole substance of the wine into the Blood, which conversion the Catholic Church calls Transubstantiation. I also confess that under either kind alone Christ is received whole and entire, and a true sacrament.
In this brief overview, notice Roman Catholicism makes no excuses, both dogmatically and in practice. It believes the bread and wine are no longer physically present in the Lord's Supper, "Transubstantiation means the change of the whole substance of bread into the substance of the Body of Christ and of the whole substance of wine into the substance of his Blood" as per the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. Roman Catholics before and after the Council of Trent must wholeheartedly agree to transubstantiation to be considered faithful Roman Catholics and not subject to a severe anathema. 

Luther's View of Transubstantiation, a Primer
Here is a sampling of some specific quotes from Luther on transubstantiation. To summarize: the extant evidence shows he appears to have accepted it at first, then rejected it but allowed it to be held if one wanted to, then a short while later he rejected it as impious, blasphemous and anathema

Early on in the Reformation via a passing comment, Luther appears supportive of Roman Catholic transubstantiation. In 1519 he writes,
...[H]e gave his true natural flesh in the bread, and his natural true blood in the wine, that he might give a really perfect sacrament or sign. For just as the bread is changed into his true natural body and the wine into his natural true blood, so truly are we also drawn and changed into the spiritual body, that is, into the fellowship of Christ and all saints and by this sacrament put into possession of all the virtues and mercies of Christ... (LW 35:59).
Only a year later though he declares it to be an aspect of the Babylonian Captivity of the Church (1520), being under "Roman tyranny" (LW 36:28). He dubs it "the second captivity" (LW 36:28). Luther states:
Some time ago, when I was drinking in scholastic theology, the learned Cardinal of Cambrai gave me food for thought in his comments on the fourth book of the Sentences. He argues with great acumen that to hold that real bread and real wine, and not merely their accidents, are present on the altar, would be much more probable and require fewer superfluous miracles—if only the church had not decreed otherwise. When I learned later what church it was that had decreed this, namely the Thomistic—that is, the Aristotelian church—I grew bolder, and after floating in a sea of doubt, I at last found rest for my conscience in the above view, namely, that it is real bread and real wine, in which Christ’s real flesh and real blood are present in no other way and to no less a degree than the others assert them to be under their accidents. I reached this conclusion because I saw that the opinions of the Thomists, whether approved by pope or by council, remain only opinions, and would not become articles of faith even if an angel from heaven were to decree otherwise [Gal. 1:8]. For what is asserted without the Scriptures or proven revelation may be held as an opinion, but need not be believed. But this opinion of Thomas hangs so completely in the air without support of Scripture or reason that it seems to me he knows neither his philosophy nor his logic. For Aristotle speaks of subject and accidents so very differently from St. Thomas that it seems to me this great man is to be pitied not only for attempting to draw his opinions in matters of faith from Aristotle, but also for attempting to base them upon a man whom he did not understand, thus building an unfortunate superstructure upon an unfortunate foundation (LW 36:28-29).
True, Luther at this point does go on to allow someone to hold to transubstantiation if so desired, but only to allow the other possibility that someone holds the bread and wine are also still present: 
Therefore I permit every man to hold either of these opinions, as he chooses. My one concern at present is to remove all scruples of conscience, so that no one may fear being called a heretic if he believes that real bread and real wine are present on the altar, and that every one may feel at liberty to ponder, hold, and believe either one view or the other without endangering his salvation. However, I shall now set forth my own view (LW 36:30).
In presenting his view, Luther remains firm that the bread and wine are physically present:
Even so here, when the Evangelists plainly write that Christ took bread [Matt. 26:26; Mark 14:22; Luke 22:19] and blessed it, and when the Book of Acts and the Apostle Paul in turn call it bread [Acts 2:46; 1 Cor. 10:16; 11:23, 26–28], we have to think of real bread and real wine, just as we do of a real cup (for even they do not say that the cup was transubstantiated). Since it is not necessary, therefore, to assume a transubstantiation effected by divine power, it must be regarded as a figment of the human mind, for it rests neither on the Scriptures nor on reason, as we shall see (LW 36:30-31).
He declares transubstantiation to be a "a monstrous word and a monstrous idea" (LW 36:31). He clearly rejects it, placing him clearly at odds with Rome's pronouncements:
Therefore it is an absurd and unheard-of juggling with words to understand “bread” to mean “the form or accidents of bread,” and “wine” to mean “the form or accidents of wine.” Why do they not also understand all other things to mean their “forms or accidents”? And even if this might be done with all other things, it would still not be right to enfeeble the words of God in this way, and by depriving them of their meaning to cause so much harm.

Moreover, the church kept the true faith for more than twelve hundred years, during which time the holy fathers never, at any time or place, mentioned this transubstantiation (a monstrous word and a monstrous idea), until the pseudo philosophy of Aristotle began to make its inroads into the church in these last three hundred years. During this time many things have been wrongly defined, as for example, that the divine essence is neither begotten nor begets; that the soul is the substantial form of the human body. These and like assertions are made without any reason or cause, as the Cardinal of Cambrai68 himself admits (LW 36:31).

Perhaps they will say that the danger of idolatry demands that the bread and wine should not be really present. How ridiculous! The laymen have never become familiar with their fine-spun philosophy of substance and accidents, and could not grasp it if it were taught to them. Besides, there is the same danger in the accidents which remain and which they see, as in the case of the substance which they do not see. If they do not worship the accidents, but the Christ hidden under them, why should they worship the [substance of the] bread, which they do not see? .

 And why could not Christ include his body in the substance of the bread just as well as in the accidents? In red-hot iron, for instance, the two substances, fire and iron, are so mingled that every part is both iron and fire. Why is it not even more possible that the body of Christ be contained in every part of the substance of the bread? (LW 36:31-32)

...[I]t is not necessary in the sacrament that the bread and wine be transubstantiated and that Christ be contained under their accidents in order that the real body and real blood may be present. But both remain there at the same time, and it is truly said: “This bread is my body; this wine is my blood,” and vice versa. Thus I will understand it for the time being to the honor of the holy words of God, to which I will allow no violence to be done by petty human arguments, nor will I allow them to be twisted into meanings which are foreign to them. At the same time, I permit other men to follow the other opinion, which is laid down in the decree, Firmiter, only let them not press us to accept their opinions as articles of faith (as I have said above) (LW 36:35).

They come then to the profundities, babble of transubstantiation and endless other metaphysical trivialities, destroy the proper understanding and use of both sacrament and testament together with faith as such, and cause Christ’s people to forget their God—as the prophet says, days without number [Jer. 2:32] (LW 36:44-45).

On May 16, 1522 Luther wrote to Paul Speratus saying, 


The dispute about whether the body of Christ alone is present under the bread by virtue of the words, etc., is to be settled the same way. Judge for yourself whether there is any need to involve the ignorant multitude in these hair-splittings, when otherwise they can be guided by the sound and safe faith that under the bread there is the body of Him who is true God and true man. What is the use of wearying ourselves with the question how blood, humanity, Deity, hair, bones and skin are present by concomitance, for these things we do not need to know. These things neither teach nor increase faith, but only sow doubts and dissensions. Faith wishes to know nothing more than that under the bread is present the body, under the wine the blood of the Christ who lives and reigns. It holds fast to this simple truth and despises curious questions. 

In July 1522, Luther responded to written attack from King Henry VIII of England (who was still a Roman Catholic at this point) with detailed and vehement arguments that transubstantiation was false (LW 61:36-44). He laments that Christians are "forced to believe as a necessary article of faith that the bread and wine cease to be present after the consecration" (LW 61:30) and contrarily that "it is not necessary to believe that the bread and wine are transubstantiated" (LW 61:36) Luther admits "no article unless it is supported by clear Scriptures" (LW 61:38). "[W]hat Scripture asserts should be asserted in articles of faith, and what it does not assert should not be asserted but considered free. But it plainly calls the Sacrament itself "bread" (LW 61:38). In this treatise, that "freedom" to believe in transubstantiation morphed into his firm opinion that it was impious, blasphemous and anathema.

He makes a number of clear statements expressly denying transubstantiation:

[W]hich grammarian would be so insane as to understand or conclude from the saying "This is My body" that thing which is the bread, is transubstantiated? Who except the rabble of the Thomists, who have cause us to unlearn even grammar? (LW 61:38).

Therefore, my Paul stands undefeated against those futile transubstantiators and says, "The bread we break" (1 Cor. 10:16], and strikes them down with a double horn: first, that they can assert their arguments neither by reason nor by authority; second, that with their feeble explanations they can do nothing but beg the question most faultily, and at most what they accomplish is that it could be so, as they imagine, although they needed to prove both that it is done and that it is right, that it is so and must be so. For no one can doubt whether God can transubstantiate the bread, but they cannot show that He in fact does it (LW 61:42).

And so I can say that the body of Christ is in the Sacrament in such a way that the bread is preserved, just as the fire is in the iron with the substance of the iron being preserved... (LW 61:42)

And so we have this article which, although I did not examine it with any anxiety before, has now been quite abundantly confirmed by the Papists own assertions- that is, by their lies and stupidities and blasphemies- so that now we are utterly safe in saying that it is the merest invention of the impious and blind Thomists, whatever the bleat out about transubstantiation, and that one should hold firmly to the faithful words of God, where He says simply and purely in Paul that the bread that we break and eat is the body of Christ [1 Cor. 1016, 11:23-24]... Previously I posited that it does not matter at all if you think this or that way about transubstantiation, but now I judge from the clear reasons and most beautiful arguments of the assertor of the sacraments that it is impious and blasphemous if anyone says that the bread is transubstantiated, but catholic and pious if anyone says with Paul: "The bread that we break is the body of Christ." Let him be anathema who has said otherwise and has changed one jot or tittle 9cf. Matt. 5:18], even if it is Lord Henry, the new and exception Thomist (LW 61:44).

In Luther's 1523 treatise The Adoration of the Sacrament, he wrote:

The third error is that in the sacrament no bread remains but only the form of bread. Of course, this error is not very important if only the body and blood of Christ, together with the Word, are not taken away—though the papists have earnestly contended and still contend for this their new doctrine. They label as heretic anyone who does not agree with them that it is a necessary truth, that no bread remains there—that monastic fantasy buttressed by Thomas Aquinas and confirmed by the popes. But while they insist so strongly upon this, and that out of pure arbitrariness and without any foundation in Scripture, we shall defy them and hold to the contrary that real bread and wine are truly present along with the body and blood of Christ. We are glad to be labeled heretic by such imaginary Christians and naked sophists. For the gospel calls the sacrament bread. It says that the bread is the body of Christ. We shall stand by that. We are sufficiently certain, contrary to all the dreams of the sophists, that what the gospel calls bread is bread. If it deceives us, we shall take our chances (LW 36:287-288).

It was not for any good purpose that the devil let the papists retain the body and blood of Christ in the sacrament. On the contrary he has caused them on their commercial fairground to deal with Christ as the Jews dealt with him that night in Caiaphas’ house when he had been betrayed into their hands [Matt. 26:57–68]. There would not have been so many and such terrible sins if the sacrament had been entirely renounced, just as those who did not crucify Christ did not commit such great sins as the Jews did who seized him and put him to death (LW 36:288). 

In Luther's heated clashes with Zwingli, the later argued the logical outcome of the former's view was Rome's transubstantiation. Luther vehemently denied this. He stated in 1528,

Throughout the world universities have long been plagued by it, until they forced themselves to teach that in the sacrament no bread remains in essence, but only its form. This “identical predication of diverse natures” is untenable both in Scripture and in reason, i.e. the idea that two diverse natures should be identical. If the fanatics were not such ignorant logicians, they would have known how to handle this problem. It would have been worth talking about, and they could have left their useless flesh and Christ up in heaven, along with their other childish nonsense (LW 37:295).

Now, I have taught in the past and still teach that this controversy is unnecessary, and that it is of no great consequence whether the bread remains or not. I maintain, however, with Wycliffe that the bread remains; on the other hand, I also maintain with the sophists that the body of Christ is present. So against all reason and hairsplitting logic I hold that two diverse substances may well be, in reality and in name, one substance (LW 37:296).

Against this someone will object once more, “But you yourself declare that the wine remains wine in the new Supper. These words of yours make you a good papist who believes that there is no wine in the Supper.” I reply: This bothers me very little, for I have often enough asserted that I do not argue whether the wine remains wine or not. It is enough for me that Christ’s blood is present; let it be with the wine as God wills. Sooner than have mere wine with the fanatics, I would agree with the pope that there is only blood (LW 37:317).

Used now as part of the official Lutheran confessions of faith, in his Large Catechism of 1529, Luther wrote:

8 Now, what is the Sacrament of the Altar? Answer: It is the true body and blood of the Lord Christ in and under the bread and wine which we Christians are commanded by Christ’s word to eat and drink.

9 As we said of Baptism that it is not mere water, so we say here that the sacrament is bread and wine, but not mere bread or wine such as is served at the table. It is bread and wine comprehended in God’s Word and connected with it.

10 It is the Word, I maintain, which distinguishes it from mere bread and wine and constitutes it a sacrament which is rightly called Christ’s body and blood. It is said, “Accedat verbum ad elementum et fit sacramentum,” that is, “When the Word is joined to the external element, it becomes a sacrament.” This saying of St. Augustine is so accurate and well put that it is doubtful if he has said anything better. The Word must make the element a sacrament; otherwise it remains a mere element [Tappert, T. G., ed. (1959). The Book of Concord the confessions of the Evangelical Lutheran Church. (pp. 447–448). Mühlenberg Press].

 Used now as part of the official Lutheran confessions of faith, Luther's Smalcald Artilces of 1537 state:

As for transubstantiation, we have no regard for the subtle sophistry of those who teach that bread and wine surrender or lose their natural substance and retain only the appearance and shape of bread without any longer being real bread, for that bread is and remains there agrees better with the Scriptures, as St. Paul himself states, “The bread which we break” (1 Cor. 10:16), and again, “Let a man so eat of the bread” (1 Cor. 11:28) [Tappert, T. G., ed. (1959). The Book of Concord the confessions of the Evangelical Lutheran Church. (p. 311). Mühlenberg Press].

In 1545, Luther still affirms his rejection of transubstantiation. In Against the Thirty-Two Articles of the Louvain Theologists, Luther argues "18. Transubstantiation of the bread and the wine is taught without reason, yes, without the [authority of the] Word, by the mere vanity of the 'little masters'” (LW 34:355).

Finally, while not primary evidence, the Table Talk corroborates Luther's rejection of transubstantiation:  

No. 96: Rejection of Transubstantiation November 9, 1531. “In the sacrament of the altar Thomas invented transubstantiation. I think that the bread and wine remain, just as the water remains in baptism and just as the human voice remains when I preach. Yet it is in truth the power of God, as Paul calls it (LW 54:12).
Luther's Contemporary Opponents, a Primer
Unlike today's defenders of Rome, Luther's contemporary foes realized something was dangerously not right with Luther's rejection of transubstantiation. When the Roman Catholic controversialists brought up Luther's denial of transubstantiation, they intended to specifically document his heresy, particularly his assertion that the bread and wine were still present in the Eucharist. This is antithetical to many of the presentations of Rome's modern defenders: they ignore Luther held the bread and wine are still present and are happy to promote Luther's acceptance of the Real Presence. Here are a few examples of Luther's Roman Catholic contemporaries:

Johann Eck (1519)
...I say if the Bohemians are of the same mind as you, then they are of the same mind as they have always been. (Or does he deny that the Bohemians are heretics? I hear that he has been pouring out poison of this sort along with his friend Philipp Melanchthon.  “It is no heresy to disbelieve indelible character, transubstantiation and the like”: this is how the Wittenbergers argue, so that among them are no heretics, even though they say that in the holy sacrament of the altar one eats the element of bread, just as one does ordinary food!) Therefore, this foolish hunter confuses Bohemian and Catholic articles, and the rejected and the condemned. So it is certain that the Bohemians boast that in these articles, in which they dissent from the Catholic Church, they have Luther as their champion— and indeed that he is the most Hussite of them all. [Graham, M. Patrick (ed.). Luther as Heretic: Ten Catholic Responses to Martin Luther, 1518–1541 (p. 57). Pickwick Publications, an Imprint of Wipf and Stock Publishers. Kindle Edition]. 
Henry VIII (1521, Against Luther while still a Roman Catholic (probable help in composition by Roman Catholic Controversialist Thomas More)
Luther takes a deal  of Pains to confute the Arguments of the Neoteries, by which they endeavored  to maintain and prove Transubstantiation, by philosophical Reasons, out of Aristotle's School; in which troubles himself than is requisite:  For the Church does not believe it, because they dispute it so to be; but  because She believed so from the Beginning, and  that  none should stagger about it, decreed that all  should so believe. They therefore exercise their Wit with philosophical Reasons, that they may be able to teach that no absurd Consequence can follow that Belief; or that the Change of Bread into a new Substance, does not necessarily leave, but take away the former. 

Luther says, 'This Doctrine of Transubstantiation, is risen in the Church within these three Hundred Years; whereas before, for above twelve Hundred Years, from Christ's Birth, the Church had true Faith:  Yet all this while was there not any mention made of this prodigious (as he calls it) word Transubstantiation. If he strives thus only about the Word, I suppose none will trouble him to believe Transubstantiation; if he will but believe, that the Bread is changed into the Flesh, and the Wine into  the Blood; and that Nothing remains of the Bread and Wine but the Species; which, in one Word, is the Meaning of those who put in the Word Transubstantiation. But after the Church decreed that to be true, (though this were the first time it should be ordained) yet if the Ancients did not believe the contrary, although none should ever think of that thing before; why should not Luther be obedient to the present Decree of the whole Church, as persuaded that this is revealed now at length to the Church, which was hidden before? For as the Spirit inspires where he is willing; so likewise he inspires when he pleases (Assertio septem sacramentorium, or in English, Defence of the Seven Sacraments, p. 242-244).

Johannes Cochlaeus (documenting the years 1521 and 1534), extracted from Luther's Lives: Two Contemporary Accounts of Martin Luther.

1521: But since in the opinion of many Aleander seemed to be stirred up against Luther more from envy and a desire for vengeance than by zeal for piety, and since he accomplished or managed very little through his orations, be they however frequent and vehement, then finally he excerpted about forty Articles from Luther’s book About the Babylonian Captivity, which had then recently been published. In these articles Luther had dared to reject, trample upon, and condemn not only the rites and sacraments of the Church, but even the laws of the Princes and any and all governmental arrangements of human beings. These were among the articles: ‘That the Seven Sacraments must be denied, and only three accepted for the time being; that Transubstantiation at the altar must be considered a human fiction, since it is based upon nothing in Scripture or in reason (p.82).

1545: About the Words of the Consecration, Cochlaeus responded as follows, among many other things: “Moreover, when Luther mocks us for fleeing to the Faith and the mind of the Church, he acts like an Apostate. I would gladly hear, in return, from which Scripture Luther or his Devil (who, he says, disputed with him over the Mass) can demonstrate that, when a Lutheran priest (who although he is baptized, still has not been legitimately initiated into Sacred Orders) in his new Evangelical Mass chants or speaks these words of Christ, ‘This is My Body,’ in a very loud voice, through this the Flesh and Blood come into the bread and wine. Where is this written? Luther and Cordatus are the biggest babblers you please, yet they keep silent and are mute on this question. Therefore, the Lutherans could have seen to what place the Devil was leading them through Luther, as long as he wished to admit nothing except that which was expressly stated in the Scriptures – namely, he was leading them into the sect of the Zwinglians or the Pighardians, who deny Transubstantiation; just as Luther too denies it, saying ‘The substance of the bread and wine remain the same after consecration as before it.’ Therefore, if there is not Transubstantiation there, which is a transmutation of the substances, nothing is achieved by the words of consecration; since the bread remains bread, and the wine, after just as before. Moreover, Cordatus namely poured out as many words as you please, this man who wishes in the cause of the Faith to admit or receive nothing beyond the Scripture; nevertheless, he does not indicate any Scripture which says that the flesh and blood of Christ are made by the words of Consecration, when they are pronounced at the altar; but not when they are said or chanted at another time, in the Passion or the Gospel reading or elsewhere; or, if the words are said over bread and wine, but not if they were said over stone and water or ale. Be bold here, Cordatus, you mighty boaster about Scripture, and clearly pass judgment on these things for me from the Scriptures. I charge you by the eternal Truth. But for as long as you Lutherans will not pass judgment on these matters, I will consider you pure Zwinglians and Pighardians, bread-eaters and wine-bibbers, since you will receive nothing outside of clear Scripture. But we believe most firmly, with undoubted faith, that Transubstantiation is achieved by the words of Consecration, that is, that from the substance of the bread and wine are created the body and blood of Christ. For even if we do not have a Scripture about this, nevertheless we have the belief and approbation of the Church, which has taught and accepted this from Christ and His Apostles up to the present time. For these sublime mysteries are not set out in public Scriptures, lest they be mocked by infidels, Pagans, Turks, and Jews; just as Christ ordered in Matthew 7, when he said ‘Do not give a holy thing to the dogs,’ etc.; as He added sayings of Paul, Dionysius, and Augustine in support of the same opinion, which it would take to long to quote (pp. 314-315).



Saint John Fisher (1469-1535)
In the discussion in David V. Bagchi, Luther's Earliest Opponents, p. 131-132. he mentions a number of Roman Catholic controversialists responding to Luther on transubstantiation: "Fisher, Powell, and More."' Bagchi states, 
The controversialists could safely have rested their case for transubstantiation entirely on arguments from authority. But Luther’s reliance on arguments from reason obliged them to follow suit, in case their hand appeared weaker than his. His chief argument for the bread’s continued existence after consecration had been the grammatical sense of the words of institution: “This is my body” (Mark 14:22 and parallels) must mean “This bread is my body.” Fisher, Powell, and More followed Henry’s argument that the Scriptures often give transformed entities the names of their previous forms. The sentence “Aaron's rod swallowed the rods of the magicians” (Exod. 7:12) refers to the rods when serpents; similarly, Christ’s words at the wedding feast at Cana, “Draw some out” (John 2:8), appear from the context to refer to water but in fact refer to the water now become wine. “This is my body” must therefore mean “This flesh is my body.”
John Fisher penned Defensio regiae assertionis contra Babylonicam Captivitatem. This Roman Catholic controversialist responded to Luther's rejoinder to Henry VIII, including a lengthy reply against Luther on transubstantiation. The original text can be found here. This treatise was translated into English in 2024, Defense of the Royal Assertion Against Luther's Babylon Captivity by a pro-Roman Catholic publisher.  Included is an entire chapter entitled, "The Substance of the Bread Does Not Remain with the Most Holy Body of Christ." Fisher painstakingly defends transubstantiation while giving accolades to King Henry (who would go on to execute him). For Fisher, Luther's rejection of transubstantiation shows he is liar and an insulter, trying to "enchant and fill the ears" of his readers (p.105). He "does violence to Christ's words" (p. 109). Luther has "fallen into intellectual darkness" (p.111). He takes "such a license in the Scriptures that he can twist, add, take away, invert, and do whatever he pleases with them, according to the mere madness of his own brain" (p. 114). "There is no danger in disbelieving Luther, while no one can escape a manifest judgment of his own soul for having ignored the same Fathers [of the Lateran Council]" (p. 117).  Fisher ends the chapter by declaring Luther anathema (p. 137). Fisher appeals to the Lateran Council against Luther on Transubstantiation:
So that is why, at the Lateran Council, 1,315 Fathers came together from the entire Christian world for a declaration of this truth, and these very same men considered that Christ’s words should be explained in such a manner that we would believe that no bread remained with the body; nor is there the least suspicion that the same Fathers had their focus turned anywhere else than to the pursuit of this truth. For my part, since the matter stands thus, unless Christ in vain promised the help of the divine spirit for the clarification of such doubts, or unless the very Spirit of Truth fooled so many orthodox Fathers — although he was so devoutly beseeched by them — there’s no doubt whether this decree which the same synod of so many saintly Fathers at the Lateran did pronounce is much more surely trustworthy for any Christian, than any of Martin Luther’s creations, no matter how artfully crafted they may have been. Furthermore, if anyone should perhaps seek out the words of that same council, here is how it handed over what was to be believed by the faithful on this matter: “There is one Universal Church of the faithful, outside of which there is absolutely no salvation. In which Jesus Christ is the very priest and sacrifice, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species [appearance] of bread and wine; with the transubstantiated change of bread into the body and wine into the blood, by the divine power.” That is what the council said, so Luther is not right when he relates Christ’s words, saying: “When he says, ‘this,’ He means, ‘this bread...is my body’,” given that a synod of so many Fathers affirms that the bread and wine are transubstantiated by the divine power into the body and blood of Christ (pp. 116-117).

Conclusion
In summary, Luther denied transubstantiation as impious, blasphemous and anathema, placing him succinctly against Roman Catholic dogma both then and now. If Roman Catholics want to champion Luther as a defender of the Real Presence of Christ in Lord's Supper, they do so at the expense of utilizing a theological position their infallible authority considers anathematized. Luther's position clearly contradicts Roman Catholic dogmatic beliefs. Luther's earliest Roman Catholic foes understood this! They did not champion him as someone on their side for his belief in the Real Presence. They were not at all ecumenical like Luther was in 1519: "I permit every man to hold either of these opinions, as he chooses." Rome's modern-day defenders, in accordance with their alleged infallible authority, should not be ecumenical to Luther's view either.  

An interesting aspect of Luther's view of the Lord's Supper is to keep in mind that neither today's Roman Catholic nor modern-day Zwinglians should claim him as their own. The original Zwinglians chastised Luther for finding the Real Presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper while the papists criticized him for finding the bread and wine to be physically present. Luthers view is therefore neither Rome's view nor the Zwinglian view. He doesn't fit with either group.

The Bottom line: Rome's defenders are not allowed by their infallible magisterial authority to pick and choose aspects of the Eucharist to promote ecumenical unity or "gotcha!" pop-apologetics. Their tactic seems quite contrary to one of the cardinal points of Roman Catholic authority, that Rome has spoken and the case is closed.  Rome has spoken about transubstantiation, but her modern defenders don't care to consistently apply those infallible pronouncements to Luther's view of the Real Presence of Christ's body and blood along with the bread and wine in the Lord's Supper!



Addendum #1: What Luther thought of the Real Presence and Attending the Papal Mass

... [W]e say to someone who would approach the Sacrament: “It is not enough that you believe the body and blood are present, but it is necessary [to believe] also that it is for your good, etc.” The pope denies this. I believe that I receive the body and blood to this end: that the body and blood should avail for my consolation, etc. “That is false,” says the pope. “It is enough that you obey the Church and do it once a year, that you possess a historical faith and the intention not to sin in the future or to impose an obstacle [to sacramental grace], etc., when you receive the Sacrament, saying, ‘I will not steal and rob anymore.’ ” They speak like fools. This same argument was made to me by the Cardinal at Augsburg, who condemned me for saying that faith is necessary for one who would approach the Sacrament. Afterward, the Parisian [theologians] and Leo’s bull condemned the same thing, saying likewise that it is enough that you perform the work [of the sacrament] and have the intention [not to sin again] (LW 58:336).


Addendum #2 Wikipedia Reveals the Lack of Roman Catholic Unity on the Real Presence
I don't normally recommend anything Wikipedia puts forth on history. However, as of the writing of this blog post, their entry on Transubstantiation provides a statistical analysis of how disunified Roman Catholic are about the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist (Wiki adds and edits its entries at a whim, so it could disappear any time!). Scroll down to the section entitled, "General belief and doctrine knowledge among Catholics." Here is an interesting excerpt:

A 2019 Pew Research Report found that 69% of United States Catholics believed that in the Eucharist the bread and wine "are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ", and only 31% believed that, "during Catholic Mass, the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus". Of the latter group, most (28% of all US Catholics) said they knew that this is what the Church teaches, while the remaining 3% said they did not know it. Of the 69% who said the bread and wine are symbols, almost two-thirds (43% of all Catholics) said that what they believed is the Church's teaching, 22% said that they believed it in spite of knowing that the Church teaches that the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Christ. Among United States Catholics who attend Mass at least once a week, the most observant group, 63% accepted that the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Christ; the other 37% saw the bread and wine as symbols, most of them (23%) not knowing that the Church, so the survey stated, teaches that the elements actually become the body and blood of Christ, while the remaining 14% rejected what was given as the Church's teaching. The Pew Report presented "the understanding that the bread and wine used in Communion are symbols of the body and blood of Jesus Christ" as contradicting belief that, "during Catholic Mass, the bread and wine actually become the body and blood of Jesus".

From a quick look, Wiki's facts come from this 2019 link: Just one-third of U.S. Catholics agree with their church that Eucharist is body, blood of Christ. This article posits, "Seven in-ten U.S. Catholics believe bread, wine used in Communion are symbolic." I certainly realize statistics do not represent absolute truth and any analysis should be subjected to a close scrutiny of how the data was obtained. However, it's been my experience with Roman Catholics in real time, face to face, that the overwhelming majority are clueless as to what their church teaches.


Addendum #3: Helpful Explanations of the Contemporary Lutheran view of the Real Presence of Christ’s Body and Blood in The Lord’s Supper and the Rejection of Transubstantiation
The Real Presence of Christ’s Body and Blood in The Lord’s Supper: Contemporary Issues Concerning the Sacramental Union by John F. Brug (June 1998)

Wels Q&A: " We reject transubstantiation because the Bible teaches that the bread and the wine are still present in the Lord's Supper (1 Corinthians 10:16, 1 Corinthians 11:27-28). We do not worship the elements because Jesus commands us to eat and to drink the bread and the wine. He does not command us to worship them."

Monday, February 16, 2026

The Ninety-Five Theses Weren't Nailed... They Were Glued to the Wittenberg Door?

Years ago I put up a basic overview post of the controversy as to whether Luther nailed or mailed the Ninety-Five Theses. This controversy was fueled primarily by Roman Catholic priest and church historian, Erwin Iserloh. Iserloh argued the Ninety-Five Theses were mailed out to ecclesiastical authorities, not nailed to the Castle Church door.  It was an attempt to deflate a significant detail in the primary origin story of the Reformation. Now I've come across a similar Roman Catholic attempt: Luther did not nail the Ninety-Five Theses to the Wittenberg Door, he glued them. I came across this via a Roman Catholic YouTube presentation: Martin Luther's "Reformation": Some Myths, Confusions, and Lies. The guest in the video states,

Transcript: We should probably start at the very seminal event which is of course [is] the nail that shook the world as it were, the Ninety-Five Theses and that there's a mythology about it of course the idea that Luther came down and with a hammer and he nailed these things into the cathedral doors as a protest and thus you know everyone suddenly you know started seeing the errors of the Catholic Church as it were and became you know followers of Luther and broke off the shackles of the pope and so you know that every 31st of October we see that it's this popular thing [to] celebrate Reformation Day. But the truth is if you went back in time to 31st of October 1517 and you're sitting outside the cathedral doors in Wittenberg you would be looking and saying "well all right...  what's going [on]? when's this thing kicking off, man?" Sit down, relax. You know, people going into the church, coming out from mass and it's [the] vigil day of all saints. People will be picking up whatever they would need for the feast day, being... it's a general commerce around Wittenberg. "Well, when is this thing supposed to happen?" It gets to the end of the day, people start going in for vespers and he might see a clerk come by from the university with a bucket of glue because you actually didn't nail into university cathedral doors back then, even though they did serve as a bulletin board. You pasted it with glue and then you eventually varnish the whole thing and make it all look nice again after you removed all the older signs and paste and such and do it again. So you might have seen a monk maybe come up and paste the... Ninety-Five Theses up on the cathedral or and then he would have taken, you know, put up the other notices and gone back to the university.

You may be thinking, who cares if the Ninety-Five Theses were nailed or glued? What's the big deal? The big deal is controlling the narrative. A 2022 article from TGC, argues the image of a nail being hammered into the church door "is powerful, and as Protestant heirs of [Luther's] theological convictions, we appreciate the sense of confidence and finality the image carries." I think TGC has nailed it: Rome's defenders will do whatever they can to control the narrative. They want to minimize the heroic Reformation and the negative blight of the medieval Roman Catholic church. Previously their efforts were directed towards the Ninety-Five Theses being mailed, now they're arguing for glue. Both are attempts to de-dramatize the impact of the Reformation origin narrative. 


Documentation

The guest in the video does not document the assertion. This is understandable given that the information was being disseminated in a free style YouTube interview. There are though serious modern historians making the glue claim. For instance, the Reformation historian Peter Marshall states, 
Neither the Wittenberg statutes nor the notifications of Melanchthon and Rörer make any mention of hammer and nails, whose habitual use would surely have done considerable damage to any wooden door functioning day-to-day as a university ‘bulletin-board’. As the historian Daniel Jütte has established, there is considerable evidence that sixteenth-century people more commonly used glue or wax when pasting up placards and notices in public places.
None of this rules out the possibility that Rörer was accurately reporting a posting of theses which took place prior to a failed disputation in Wittenberg, or that Luther personally undertook the task of fixing placards to the doors of All Saints and St Mary’s. Yet had he done so, it would have been an unusual, and presumably noteworthy, gesture of personal challenge, which leaves us with the unresolved problem of why neither Luther nor anyone else made mention of it prior to the 1540s (Marshall, Peter. 1517: Martin Luther and the Invention of the Reformation (pp. 64-65). OUP Oxford. Kindle Edition). 
As of the writing of this entry, historian Daniel Jütte's article is online. He states (via a Google English translation):
But is it even certain that Luther would have used hammer and nails? This question has apparently never been asked before. None of the extant sixteenth-century texts mentioning Luther's posting of his theses explicitly address the use of hammer and nails. And in the contemporary statutes of the University of Wittenberg, the Pedell's duties to strike are explained, but there is no mention of a hammer to be used for this purpose. 
Similar questions are raised by the earliest pictorial depictions of the posting of the theses - a pictorial motif which, by the way, only gained momentum in the seventeenth century: there is nothing to be seen here of hammer and nails. Instead, Luther is seen in front of a poster of theses that seems to hang on the church door as if by magic. It was not until the nineteenth century that the hammer became a common image ingredient, and this tendency towards the heroic depiction of a hammer-wielding reformer fitted in well with the increasing German nationalist appropriation of the historical Luther. Finally, during the First World War, a Germanic poet wrote the pathos-rich lines: "You stand at the anvil, Luther hero, / Panted by rage. And we, all Germany, joined you, / Are your blacksmith helpers."  

Now it can be objected that some broadsheets and announcement slips from the early modern period have survived, which obviously show nail marks. However, there are also references to other methods in contemporary sources. A portrait of a donor by the Flemish painter Petrus Christus (around 1455), which is now in Washington, shows a devotional sheet in the background, which is attached to the wall with sealing wax (a forerunner of sealing wax). Certainly, this is an interior scene, but the Antwerp source from 1521 mentioned above speaks of "attaching or attaching" (slaen en plekken) to church doors, whereby "plekken" is to be understood as attaching with glue or wax. And the aforementioned Basel notary even speaks only of "staple", not of "(an-)schlagen". Another record by the same Basel notary makes it even clearer what was meant by "staple" here: he explicitly mentions that he had "publicly sniffed a similar note of protest with wax" on a door.

The implications for Luther's case are obvious: even if Luther affixed his 95 theses to the church door - which, as shown, is quite plausible - it is by no means clear that this was necessarily done with a hammer in his hand, let alone with the heroic gesture suggested by pictorial and cinematic representations from much later times. If Luther did not send the university pedell anyway, it is quite conceivable that on October 31, 1517, he stood in front of the Wittenberg Castle Church not with hammer and nails, but with glue or sealing wax.

To my knowledge, neither of these historians are Roman Catholic, although according to Peter Marshall's Wiki entry "Marshall began his career as a teacher: he was a history teacher at Ampleforth College, a Roman Catholic private school in North Yorkshire." At face value, both appear to be secular historians. 

Conclusion
To summarize the above claims: the earliest accounts of Luther and the Wittenberg door come from Luther's close associates, Philip Melanchthon and Georg Rörer. These accounts do not mention a hammer and nail. These details appear to have been introduced in a later century. From 1455 and 1521 paintings (neither depicting Wittenberg), it appears glue was one of the methods used in affixing documents. Daniel Jütte concludes, "...it is quite conceivable that on October 31, 1517, he stood in front of the Wittenberg Castle Church not with hammer and nails, but with glue or sealing wax."

There is no definitive evidence the Ninety-Five Theses were not nailed to the Wittenberg Door. Even historian Daniel Jütte above states "...some broadsheets and announcement slips from the early modern period have survived, which obviously show nail marks." Nor do I know of any evidence from previous centuries in which defenders of Roman Catholicism quibbled about glue or nails. Earlier generations of Rome's defenders were primarily educated and published books and articles against Luther and the Reformation. They were not beyond slinging whatever mud they could pick up at Martin Luther or the Reformation. It surprises me that none of them mentioned glue

Also note that Rome's defenders contradict themselves: one denies the nailing of the Ninety-Five Theses completely, the other includes the church door with a bucket of glue. They are though right about one thing: Luther was not intending to start the Reformation on October 31, 1517. However upset he was about the abuse of indulgences, he was not intending to transform Western Europe. 

An old blog comment left by a Lutheran pastor and author (Kris Baudler) makes a pertinent observation: 
To this day, university and church doors serve as bulletin boards from Tübingen to Oxford, studded with everything from nails and tacks to tape and chewing gum announcing everything from concerts to lectures, baby sitting services to guitar lessons. Popping a couple of nails into a door to hold a debate proposal of considerable weight would have been neither remarkable nor noticeable. Additionally, as is well documented, Luther relied on Röhrer for his publishing skill, speed, and accuracy.
In the video, Rome's defender says there were no nails, only glue. To believe in nails on the Wittenberg door is "mythology." This is going beyond what historian Daniel Jütte is asserting: Glue was one of the methods used, not the sole method. It is within the realm of possibility that the Ninety-Five Theses were glued. Even if they were though, the righteous indignation of Luther to the rampant societal and Papal abuse of indulgences is not diminished, nor is the collective positive impact of the Reformation. Rome's defenders may think the glue argument is meaningful, I do not.  Until there's definitive historical proof, I'll stick with hammer and nails.



Monday, February 09, 2026

Bogus Roman Catholic Memes #3 Luther- "If a woman does not perform her duties, she should be whipped and beaten just like the church treats heretics"

Here's a bogus meme posted by a Roman Catholic on Facebook. Martin Luther is purported to have stated,"If a woman does not perform her duties, she should be whipped and beaten just like the church treats heretics." This shocking Luther quote is juxtaposed with a statement from Pope Paul III, "Let women be honored in the church, for they have been given to us as models of virtue, just as the Blessed Virgin Mary was the first among them." There you have it: Luther says to beat women, a 16th Century pope says to honor women... with Mary thrown in at the end to seal the deal (Rome's defenders never miss an opportunity to mention Mary!).  What could be clearer in demonstrating Luther was evil and Roman Catholicism is glorious? 

Actually... both quotes will be demonstrated to be clearly bogus! The evil being perpetuated is falsely attributing both of these quotes to people that never made the purported statements. Leaving Luther for a moment, even if one disagrees with Roman Catholicism, false quotes attributed to the papacy should not be tolerated either by anyone claiming accountability to "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor" (Exodus 20:16).

Let's dive in.


Documentation: Martin Luther
The Luther documentation provided is "Martin Luther, On the Estate of Marriage (1522). This refers to the treatise entitled, Uom Eelichen Lebe. In English, the title is rendered The Estate of Marriage. The entire treatise in English can be found here (this link appears to be the exact same English translation that is found in LW 45).

Go ahead and search the provided link: there is no such Luther quote "If a woman does not perform her duties, she should be whipped and beaten just like the church treats heretics." While I'm not a big fan of ChatGPT, even it states:


Documentation: Pope Paul III
The Pope Paul III documentation provided is "Pope Paul III, Apostolic Letter on the Role of Women in the Church, 1545." So far, I've not located any such named 1545 apostolic letter with this title. Nor have I located any such quote stating, "Let women be honored in the church, for they have been given to us as models of virtue, just as the Blessed Virgin Mary was the first among them" either from Pope Paul III or anyone else! Once again, ChatGPT states,


The question though is... even if the quote can't be verified as originating from Pope Paul III, where does this quote come from? Did one of Rome's defenders make it up? Is it the result of A.I.? I don't know. Charity provokes me to assume the later. As of the writing of this entry, the only relevant Google hit I was provided was to someone seeming to be Roman Catholic posting the meme on a Filipino Seventh-day Adventist Around the World Facebook page.

I invite my readers, especially Roman Catholic readers, to participate in this particular papal quote snipe hunt. If you're a Roman Catholic reading this, I assume you pour over Papal statements for hours every day and have a much wider knowledge base than I do (read: friendly sarcasm). There is interesting information about Pope Paul III's Involvement with various religious females like the Ursulines. If he made this purported statement in 1545 (or any date), I assume that Rome's defenders are the true experts at going deep into history to locate the quote (read: more friendly sarcasm).


Conclusion
First, I've never come across any comments from Martin Luther saying that women should be beaten or a woman should be beaten if she "does not perform her duties."  By the way...Which duties? are these "duties" domestic work or is the insinuation conjugal... or both? The meme doesn't say. Regardless, the quote from Luther in the meme is a slanderous lie. A refutation of the meme comes from Luther himself:
Men should govern their wives not with great cudgels, flails, or drawn knives, but rather with friendly words and gestures and with all gentleness so that they do not become shy... and take fright such that they afterward do not know what to do. Thus, men should rule their wives with reason and not unreason, and honor the feminine sex as the weakest vessel and also as coheirs of the grace of life... (Luther on Woman, a Sourcebook, p. 95; WA 17.1:24).

Second, as to the alleged quote from Pope Paul III: kudos to Roman Catholicism broadly that the meme overtly says to honor women... even if the quote is fictitious! However, I see a negative aspect to this bogus quote. The quote links honoring women to "the blessed Virgin Mary." Why is she needed? Because... in Roman Catholicism, the definitive woman is Mary. Pope John Paul II wrote that Mary is an "exceptional link" between her "and the whole human family." She holds a "special place." This Pope necessarily places Mary in the role of the ultimate woman in the entire human experience. Mary is therefore the model of what it means to be a woman. The infallible Lumen Gentium states:

But while in the most holy Virgin the Church has already reached that perfection whereby she is without spot or wrinkle, the followers of Christ still strive to increase in holiness by conquering sin. And so they turn their eyes to Mary who shines forth to the whole community of the elect as the model of virtues. Piously meditating on her and contemplating her in the light of the Word made man, the Church with reverence enters more intimately into the great mystery of the Incarnation and becomes more and more like her Spouse. For Mary, who since her entry into salvation history unites in herself and re-echoes the greatest teachings of the faith as she is proclaimed and venerated, calls the faithful to her Son and His sacrifice and to the love of the Father. Seeking after the glory of Christ, the Church becomes more like her exalted Type, and continually progresses in faith, hope and charity, seeking and doing the will of God in all things. Hence the Church, in her apostolic work also, justly looks to her, who, conceived of the Holy Spirit, brought forth Christ, who was born of the Virgin that through the Church He may be born and may increase in the hearts of the faithful also. The Virgin in her own life lived an example of that maternal love, by which it behooves that all should be animated who cooperate in the apostolic mission of the Church for the regeneration of men.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church states:

966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.

-snip- 

967 By her complete adherence to the Father's will, to his Son's redemptive work, and to every prompting of the Holy Spirit, the Virgin Mary is the Church's model of faith and charity. Thus she is a "preeminent and . . . wholly unique member of the Church"; indeed, she is the "exemplary realization" (typus) of the Church.

968 Her role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace.

Here's what the Roman Catholic half of this meme is saying via this fabricated quote: honor women because you must honor Mary. She is the quintessential standard for all human beings. She is preeminent among the saints. She is the sine qua non model for all Christians to follow. Mary is your main reason to honor women! She is the virtuous standard of piety that all Christians are to aspire to. 

Contrary to Rome's alleged infallible authority, Mary is not the definite standard for all women Biblically. The Holy Scriptures speak about the definitive woman (see for example, Proverbs 31:10-31). Or, consider the means of progressive sanctification by the method of negation: where in the Bible does it say to first conform to the image of Mary to then be conformed to the image of Christ (Rom. 8:29)?  Why isn't the presence of Mary found somewhere in the explanation of the fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5? There is nowhere in Scripture in which Mary is presented as the necessary model of virtue. 

Notice I bolded and underlined the word necessary. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater! Exegeting Marian passages like Luke 1:46-55 can tell the church wonderful and useful things about Mary's Christian experience. However, this can be done without placing Mary in the quintessential role that Rome has placed her in. This is what Luther actually did in his exposition of the Magnificat (see Addendum #4 below).

David, St. Peter, St. Paul, St. Mary Magdalene, and the like, are examples to strengthen our trust in God and our faith, by reason of the great grace bestowed on them without their worthiness, for the comforting of all men (LW 21:323).

 

 Addendum #1 Revised Meme: Fake Quotes!

If you come upon this bogus meme, feel free to reply with my revised memes below. I've added, "Fake Quotes!"




Addendum #2: Luther Against Sixteenth Century Misogynists   

Luther was not a feminist. He was medieval man, born into the zeitgeist of sixteenth century German culture. One of the most helpful overviews on this is found in the book, Luther on Women, a Sourcebook. The book argues Luther retained the medieval worldview that women were inferior to men. However, the book also mentions that Luther was against "the misogynist aphorisms collected and published... by Sebastian Franck" (p.16). Luther found the collection offensive.  Here are some of Franck's offensive aphorisms:
“Once you put out the light, all women are the same”—Franck’s list included such sayings as “Woman’s beauty is a covering for filth” (cf. Ecclus. 25:21; 9:8); “Do not believe any woman, even if she is dead”; “All wickedness is a joke compared with a woman’s wickedness” (cf. Ecclus. 25:19); “It is better to bury a woman than to marry one”; “No one takes a wife unless he has lost his mind.” Franck added his own comments: “Women are by nature devoted to deception”; “It has been debated whether they should be classified as rational or irrational animals”; “When it comes to urgent tasks, one man is more valuable than a thousand women (LW 60:339).
The editors of Luther's works point out:
Luther saw Franck’s general attitude of contempt manifest particularly in the misogynistic proverbs he had published. Johann Mathesius (1504–65), who was Luther’s table companion in 1541, reported that Luther “was extremely angry at Sebastian Franck … for having published many disgraceful proverbs to dishonor the estate of marriage and the female sex.” Luther’s image of the sneering, scandalmongering Franck as an “outhouse fly” who fouls himself buzzing around the privy before trying to settle on people’s faces and smear his filth there is a reminder that Luther’s scatology, though vivid and coarse, is seldom gratuitous. The reader’s natural squeamishness at a situation that will be readily familiar to those who have spent any summer time away from indoor plumbing is aptly and effectively directed against those who seek to malign and befoul the creatures and ordinance of God—women and marriage—that God Himself has blessed and pronounced good. Anyone who delights in the scurrilous slanders Franck has published, Luther says, “cannot possibly have a gracious God” (LW 60:340-341).
Luther commended a refutation of Franck in 1545 written by Johann Freder. In his commendation Luther states:
I want to point out only one thing, in order to attest that I have read his books and am not his enemy without reason. Pray tell me, is it seemly for a writer of histories to say, “Once you put out the light, all women are the same”? Even if he had perhaps heard such a saying from some wanton man, should he therefore have written it in his book and affirmed it with such delight and amusement? Even if he had forgotten about the holy women and virgins, shouldn’t he at least have thought of his own mother or his own wife and, if he had even a spark of reason or honor or an honest drop of blood in his body, been ashamed in his heart? Or why aren’t men, too, all the same once you put out the light? (LW 60:345).

Addendum #3 WA 17.1:24, Luther on Fairly Treating Women
The Luther text mentioned above from WA 17.1:24 is worth citing at length (English offered via a rough Goggle Translate). This text is from A Sermon on Marriage, January 15,1525:


Secondly, a man should love his wife as his own body. Paul speaks to the Ephesians in chapter 5: Husbands love your wives like his own body; he who loves his wife loves himself. Listen, you hear how finely the Apostle teaches how a man should treat his wife: he should not regard her as if she were a footstool, for she was not created from a foot, but from the man's flesh in the middle of his body. A man should not treat her otherwise, as if she were his own body or flesh. And however tenderly and kindly he treats and acts with his body—if he is slovenly, he does not destroy or neglect her; if he is prudent, he cares for and looks after her; and even if he does not always do so equally, it is all for his good. So should a man do with his wife. And even if another woman is more beautiful, better eloquent, more skilled, wiser, and more capable than your wife, you should not love her as much as your own body. Purely, no, but you should love your wife as your own body, and even if she cannot always make it equal to you, bear with her patience as with your own body. And do as the vintner does with his strong vine-bearer, as the holy [Seft?] in the 128th psalm chapter calls a woman a vine-bearer when one wants to bind him who is weak in the flesh, like a woman he is supposed to bear and produce fruit. Thus, the vintner does not take a large, zealous scale chain or a rough heap of straw, but a finely nimble little thong, with which he binds him.
Thus, women should also be treated not with great rudeness, boorishness, or rudeness, but with friendly words, friendly gestures, and with all humility, so that they do not become shrewish, as Peter says in chapter 3, and frightened, so that afterwards they do not know what to do. Therefore, women must be governed with reason and not with unreason, and the female sex, as the weakest of men, should be given its brothers, also as co-heirs of the grace of life, so that our prayer may not be hindered. And this means, as St. Paul says to Ephesians in chapter 5: "Men, love your wives, just as Jesus Christ loved his church." 

 Addendum #4: Selections from Luther's Exposition of the Magnificat

[...S]he does take it amiss that the vain chatterers preach and write so many things about her merits. They are set on proving their own skill and fail to see how they spoil the Magnificat, make the Mother of God a liar, and diminish the grace of God. For, in proportion as we ascribe merit and worthiness to her, we lower the grace of God and diminish the truth of the Magnificat. The angel salutes her only as highly favored of God, and because the Lord is with her (Luke 1:28), which is why she is blessed among women. Hence all those who heap such great praise and honor upon her head are not far from making an idol of her, as though she were concerned that men should honor her and look to her for good things, when in truth she thrusts this from her and would have us honor God in her and come through her to a good confidence in His grace (LW 21:322).

 What do you think? David, St. Peter, St. Paul, St. Mary Magdalene, and the like, are examples to strengthen our trust in God and our faith, by reason of the great grace bestowed on them without their worthiness, for the comforting of all men (LW 21:323).

As the wood had no other merit or worthiness than that it was suited to be made into a cross and was appointed by God for that purpose, so her sole worthiness to become the Mother of God lay in her being fit and appointed for it; so that it might be pure grace and not a reward, that we might not take away from God’s grace, worship, and honor by ascribing too great things to her (LW 21:327).

It is necessary also to keep within bounds and not make too much of calling her “Queen of Heaven,” which is a true-enough name and yet does not make her a goddess who could grant gifts or render aid, as some suppose when they pray and flee to her rather than to God. She gives nothing, God gives all... (LW 21:327-328).

Therefore she adds, “And holy is His name.” That is to say: “As I lay no claim to the work, neither do I to the name and fame. For the name and fame belong to Him alone who does the work. It is not proper that one should do the work and another have the fame and take the glory. I am but the workshop in which He performs His work; I had nothing to do with the work itself. No one should praise me or give me the glory for becoming the Mother of God, but God alone and His work are to be honored and praised in me. It is enough to congratulate me and call me blessed, because God used me and did His works in me.” Behold, how completely she traces all to God, lays claim to no works, no honor, no fame. She conducts herself as before, when she still had nothing of all this; she demands no higher honors than before. She is not puffed up, does not vaunt herself or proclaim with a loud voice that she is become the Mother of God. She seeks not any glory, but goes about her usual household duties, milking the cows, cooking the meals, washing pots and kettles, sweeping out the rooms, and performing the work of maidservant or housemother in lowly and despised tasks, as though she cared nothing for such great gifts and graces (LW 21:329).

Alas, the word “service of God” has nowadays taken on so strange a meaning and usage that whoever hears it thinks not of these works of God, but rather of the ringing of bells, the wood and stone of churches, the incense pot, the flicker of candles, the mumbling in the churches, the gold, silver, and precious stones in the vestments of choirboys and celebrants, of chalices and monstrances, of organs and images, processions and churchgoing, and, most of all, the babbling of lips and the rattling of rosaries. This, alas, is what the service of God means now. Of such service God knows nothing at all, while we know nothing but this. We chant the Magnificat daily, to a special tone and with gorgeous pomp; and yet the oftener we sing it, the more we silence its true music and meaning. Yet the text stands firm. Unless we learn and experience these works of God, there will be no service of God, no Israel, no grace, no mercy, no God, though we kill ourselves with singing and ringing in the churches and drag into them all the goods in all the world. God has not commanded any of these things; undoubtedly, therefore, He takes no pleasure in them (LW 21:350).

Monday, February 02, 2026

Non-Bogus Roman Catholic Meme #1

 

After a barrage of bogus Roman Catholic memes on the Mariology of the early Reformers appearing online, I decided to join the wacky world of meme-ing and make my own... or rather, augmenting one of theirs! I decided to do this because no matter how many comments I've left under bogus memes, very few people seem interested in the actual facts about the bogus quotes used in their memes. I think now people largely only have the attention spans to engage pictures and short comments. There's a sense in which I understand this. I too do not enjoy wading through long rambling posts... even my own!

To present a counter view opposing that the early Reformers were Mariologists, the quotes in my meme were intended to demonstrate that Rome's defenders cherry pick content and ignore what doesn't fit. The quotes I picked out purposefully do not fit their paradigm! What I'll be doing here is breaking down the content of the meme with documentation. I do this so that anyone using my meme has a direct line to the context of where the quotes are from.

Martin Luther:"We are just as holy as Mary and the other saints, no matter how great they are, when we only believe in Christ." I chose this quote to demonstrate the clear contrast between the way Roman Catholics consider Mary to be holy and the way Martin Luther did. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states,

492 The "splendour of an entirely unique holiness" by which Mary is "enriched from the first instant of her conception" comes wholly from Christ: she is "redeemed, in a more exalted fashion, by reason of the merits of her Son". The Father blessed Mary more than any other created person "in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places" and chose her "in Christ before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless before him in love".
Luther on the other hand stated we are just as holy as Mary! This quote comes from the same sermon Rome's defenders use in which they claim Luther held, "The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart." In context, the "veneration" quote is not a positive affirmation of Marian piety from Luther. Rather, the quote is part of a collection of sermons intended to wean people away from venerating the saints (including Mary). In the "veneration" context, Luther's point is that whatever respect Mary was due, the church of his day had collectively gone far beyond it. A full break down of the "veneration" quote can be found here.

The context of the quote in the meme can be originally found in WA 10.III:315. This sermon is sometimes referred to as "Sermon on the Day of Mary's Birth, 8 Sept. 1522." It was part of Luther's Kirchenpostille (festival sermons).




This text was brought into English in The Festival Sermons of Martin Luther, translated by Joel R. Baseley, p.158. He entitles the sermon, The Day of the Nativity, September 8. While the German text appears to me to be much fuller (and also provides two different renderings of the same sermon), Baseley captured the essence of the context for English readers:


John Calvin: "To speak of the Mother of God instead of the Virgin Mary can only serve to harden the ignorant in their superstition." I chose this quote to highlight the historical fact that John Calvin purposefully shied away from positively using the phrase, "Mother of God." The original exploration I did on this quote can be found here.

Contrarily, some Roman Catholics are overt that John Calvin used the phrase, "Mother of God." To cite a few examples: John Pasquini states in his books Catholic Answers to Protestant Questions and True Christianity the Catholic Way, "Even John Calvin recognized the reality of Mary as the Mother of God!" EWTN hosts a web-page that states, "The French reformer John Calvin (1509-1564) also held that Mary was the Mother of God."  Raymond De Souza presents proof that "Luther, Calvin and Zwingli preserved it intact in their systems of distorted doctrines" that "Protestantism, unhesitatingly called the Holy Virgin 'Mother of God (theotokos).'The Seekers Guide to Mary says, "Calvin also held that Mary was the Mother of God." These are but a few examples from a seemingly endless pool of Google hits. 

In actuality, I've never found John Calvin positively using the phrase, "Mother of God." The quote from John Calvin used in my meme is compliments of the Roman Catholic scholar Thomas O'Meara. He writes, "Calvin nowhere calls Mary Theotokos or the Mother of God." O'Meara states further, "...the reason for his hesitancy on the use of the term 'Mother of God' seems to be based upon a fear of falling into what he saw as the excesses of the past." O'Meara then refers to a letter Calvin wrote "to a French Calvinist community in London in 1552."  Calvin wrote September 27, 1552 to the French Church in London. They had written to him and asked, "Is it lawful to call Mary the Mother of God?" Calvin responds, 

Concerning the other debatable points, I doubt not but there may have been somewhat of ignorance in their reproving the way of speaking of the Virgin Mary as the mother of God, and together with ignorance, it is possible that there may have been rashness and too much forwardness, for, as the old proverb says, The most ignorant are ever the boldest. However, to deal with you with brotherly frankness, I cannot conceal that that title being commonly attributed to the Virgin in sermons is disapproved, and, for my own part I cannot think such language either right, or becoming, or suitable. Neither will any sober-minded people do so, for which reason I cannot persuade myself that there is any such usage in your church, for it is just as if you were to speak of the blood, of the head, and of the death of God. You know that the Scriptures accustom us to a different style; but there is something still worse about this particular instance, for to call the Virgin Mary the mother of God, can only serve to confirm the ignorant in their superstitions. And he that would take a pleasure in that, shews clearly that he knows not what it is to edify the Church.
O'Meara makes this conclusion,
It is not an explicit rejection of Ephesus—for which Calvin has great respect—but rather the effect which this title had on devotional life in the past that explains why Calvin preferred other titles for Mary.
The original letter can be found here: CR 42:363


This is exactly why John Calvin avoided the term "Mother of God" and why many within Protestantism do today. Dr. 
James White once described this title as "the single most misused theological term around." Contemporary Protestants distance themselves from the title, "Mother of God," for good reason. The term has evolved in its usage. What was once a rich theological term expressing a doctrinal truth about Christ developed into a venerating praise to Mary. The gist of the term became heavily Mariological in popular medieval piety, abandoning its Christological heritage (see my old comments here on this).  Calvin rightly says, "...for to call the Virgin Mary the mother of God, can only serve to confirm the ignorant in their superstitions."


Ulrich Zwingli:"Our only access to God is Christ, and that the hope [in the saints] which has been taught to creatures is pure deception, falsehood, and idolatry."  Out of these three early Reformers, Ulrich Zwingli is the most "Marian" of them all and it is much harder to locate his explicit Marian comments, either affirming or denying. The quote I chose is from Zwingli's Explanation of his 67 Articles.  These 67 Articles were presented as a public disputation January 27, 1523. This explanatory text was presented July 14, 1523 (half a year later). The text in question is in regard to Article 20: "That God desires to give us all things in his name, whence it follows that outside of this life we need no mediator except himself."  Zwingli specifically denied the intercession of the saints, including Mary. Roman Catholics seem to treat this denial like it's no big deal. However, all the distinctive Roman Catholic Marian attributes (Perpetual Virginity, Assumption, Immaculate Conception, etc.) are symbiotically related to her ability to intercede. Take away Mary's ability to intercede, whatever is left really becomes a curiosity of history rather than something profoundly meaningful.

As far as I know, the treatise I've utilized has not been translated into English. The original can be found in the Corpus Reformatorum. This is a largest collection of writings from some of the popular sixteenth century Reformers. The quote can be found here: CR 2, 198.


DeepL A.I. English translation:
Accordingly, and as is sufficiently demonstrated in this and the preceding article, our only access to God is through Christ, and the hope that one has learned in creatures is a pure deception, falsehood, and idolatry, it will also be necessary to tear the writings that they have used dishonestly from their hands and denounce them wherever they have misused or misunderstood them.

 

Addendum: Facebook Discussion of the Revised Meme

For the benefit of my own remembering, I posted my revised meme on a Catholic vs. Protestant Facebook page. As of the writing of this entry, the post can be found here. Interestingly, no one in that discussion (as of the writing of this entry) has challenged the integrity of the meme... as in its accuracy. There were a lot of rabbit trails and non-sequiturs. There were a number of responses posting contrary memes.