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12 comments:
You're right, it is silly. On the discussion boards the only ones who think Catholics believe this are the non-Catholics
Akin mentions,
"This is bad because it strains credulity enough to have saintly images appearing in tortillas an pieces of toast and on the sides of buildings. Finding one in an image of something as dynamic and as constantly-changing-in-shape as fire is completely beyond the bounds. If you take enough pictures of any bonfire, you'll be able to find such images in it."
Here in the predominantly Roman Catholic Philippines, events like this one are very common. Some Roman Catholics would think that Jesus or Mary would appear in walls, in a floor or would otherwise make an apparition.
On the discussion boards the only ones who think Catholics believe this are the non-Catholics
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=487764&in_page_id=1811
"Service director Jarek Cielecki, a Polish priest and close friend of John Paul II, travelled to Poland after hearing an onlooker had photographed the image.
Father Cielecki said he was convinced the picture showed the former pontiff.
"You can see the image of a person in the flames and I think it is the servant of God, Pope John Paul II," he said."
Is Father Cielecki a non-Catholic?
I linked the entry over to Akin's blog, because I realize that even though I may have extreme theologic differences with Akin, this doesn't mean I think Roman Catholics are idiots. Akin makes some valid points in his entry.
So, you found one, thank you James for linking to Jimmy Akins blog on this, I agree with him, as do the majority of Catholics
I agree with James. Conservative Roman Catholics are, in fact, sad in seeing an increasingly becoming syncretic form of Roman Catholicism being practiced by many Roman Catholics in Third World countries like my country, the Philippines.
Protestants have TBN. RCs have the BV Mary on pancakes, Lourdes, highway underpasses, and Fatima and Popes in campfires. That's a toss-up if I've ever seen one. :-D
Kmerian,
I realize we all have our nuts, but to say that only non-Catholics are buying into this isn’t quite true. I was just pointing out that your first comment was inaccurate.
"I realize we all have our nuts, but to say that only non-Catholics are buying into this isn’t quite true. I was just pointing out that your first comment was inaccurate."
That's the fine thing about nuts: they come in an amazing variety.
E i E
I think we do need to face the fact that many Catholics at least appear to propogate superstitions. This does not negate the sound doctrine they might follow, any more than saying "God bless you" after anyone sneezes negates the true doctrine that we can ask God to bless people. Yet, we need to look seriously at out own house.
E i E works both ways.
James,
You know Luther pretty well, what witty saying do you think he would have come up with in response?
So, you found one, thank you James for linking to Jimmy Akins blog on this, I agree with him, as do the majority of Catholics
Really? Taken a survey?
Shall we graft in all those Catholics in South America who run after Marian apparitions, or do they not count? Those who see miracles in the preservation of the bodies of dead "saints," and the like? The relic trade of times past? What about burying saints in your yard to sell a house? Oh, we could milk the superstition wagon a good deal and we'd eventually wind up with a "majority."
Also, I can't help but notice that you find the word of a priest subpar to your own private interpretation of this.
I think you need to listed to E i E.
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