Monday, July 11, 2011

Mary's Recent Visit to Africa

http://patrickmadrid.com/an-new-apparition-of-the-blessed-virgin-mary-in-africa-or-is-it-something-else/
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Carrie said...

It’s possible, too, if this isn’t a hoax, that a demonic spirit could be masquerading as the Blessed Virgin Mary

So, how do you determine if it is really the BVM or a demon?

2:59 PM, July 11, 2011
EA said...

"So, how do you determine if it is really the BVM or a demon?"

From the comments on Madrid's blog: "In ALL THINGS supernatural it is the Church’s authority and the Church’s alone to declare the validity of such events."

You're supposed to stop using private judgement immediately after deciding that Rome is the One True Church. 1 John 4:1 doesn't apply to us.

3:30 PM, July 11, 2011
Anonymous said...

"So, how do you determine if it is really the BVM or a demon?"

Catholics actually believe in the discerning body with teaching authority known as the Church - strange as it may seem to the one asking the question.

6:38 PM, July 11, 2011
Carrie said...

From the comments on Madrid's blog: "In ALL THINGS supernatural it is the Church’s authority and the Church’s alone to declare the validity of such events."From the comments on Madrid's blog: "In ALL THINGS supernatural it is the Church’s authority and the Church’s alone to declare the validity of such events."

Has The Church ever declared anything like this demonic? I just don't remember anything like that.

It also seems like it takes a long time for The Church to pass judgment - in the meantime I think you are free to believe whatever you want. One of the comments mentioned Medjugorje is still undeclared - that started 30 years ago.

Seems odd to believe something for 30 years that ends up being demonic (if they ever declared that).

7:54 PM, July 11, 2011
PeaceByJesus said...

It is revealing that while the Protestant emphasis upon the epistles as interpreting the gospels is subject to attack by those in, the most extreme claims for Mary find not censure. And while Rome has not officially sanctioned much she has sppdly said, it manifests an attitude that at the least infers consent.

"Pope Pius XII explains in an address on the Queenship of Mary, 'when the glorious Virgin Mary entered triumphantly into heaven and was elevated above the choirs of angels to the throne of the Most Holy Trinity.' And then Christ 'placed a triple crown of glory on her head, presented her to the heavenly court, seated her at his right hand and pronounced her Queen of the Universe.'...Opus Sanctorum Angelorum, Formation Letter, "Mary - 'Regina Angelorum'", April, 2000. http://www.opusangelorum.org/Formation/Maryregina.html

When therefore we read in the writings of Saint Bernard, Saint Bernardine, Saint Bonaventure, and others that all in heaven and on earth, even God himself, is subject to the Blessed Virgin, they mean that the authority which God was pleased to give her is so great that she seems to have the same power as God. Her prayers and requests are so powerful with him that he accepts them as commands in the sense that he never resists his dear mother’s prayer because it is always humble and conformed to his will.... St. Louis de Montfort, in Treatise on True Devotion to the Blessed Virgin, #27, 246. http://www.ewtn.com/library/Montfort/TRUEDEVO.HTM

Thus is confirmed that law of merciful meditation of which We have spoken, and which St. Bernardine of Siena thus expresses: ‘Every grace granted to man has three degrees in order; for by God it is communicated to Christ, from Christ it passes to the Virgin, and from the Virgin it descends to us.’”Pope Leo XIII, in Iucunda Semper Expectatione (On the Rosary), Encyclical promulgated on September 8, 1894, #5.
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13ro5.htm

'O Virgin most holy, none abounds in the knowledge of God except through thee; none, O Mother of God, attains salvation except through thee; none receives a gift from the throne of mercy except through thee.'" Pope Leo XIII, in Adiutricem (On the Rosary), Encyclical promulgated on September 5, 1895, #9. http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13adiut.htm

To be Cntd

10:22 PM, July 11, 2011
PeaceByJesus said...

"The power thus put into her (Mary's) hands is all but unlimited. ... Among her many other titles we find her hailed as 'our Lady, our Mediatrix,' (St. Bernard, Serm.II in Adv. 4) 'the Reparatrix of the whole world,' (St. Tharasius, Orat. in Praesentatione) 'the Dispenser of all heavenly gifts.' (On Off. Graec., 8 Dec.)." Pope Leo XIII, in Adiutricem (On the Rosary), Encyclical promulgated on September 5, 1895, #8. http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13adiut.htm

"The foundation of all Our confidence, as you know well, Venerable Brethren, is found in the Blessed Virgin Mary. For, God has committed to Mary the treasury of all good things, in order that everyone may know that through her are obtained every hope, every grace, and all salvation. For this is His will, that we obtain everything through Mary." Pope Pius IX, in Ubi Primum (On the Immaculate Conception), Encyclical promulgated on February 2, 1849, #5. http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9ubipr2.htm


All of which, and there is much more, what happens when an entity presumes autocratic authority, and can declare what she may by fiat, and add to and contract the Scriptures.

10:25 PM, July 11, 2011
EA said...

"Has The Church ever declared anything like this demonic? I just don't remember anything like that."

I don't believe that the RCC makes that distinction instead I believe that they either say that an apparition is "worth of belief" or not. Presumably any number of causes of "apparitions" would fall into "not worthy of belief".

6:58 AM, July 12, 2011

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