Wednesday, August 20, 2014

Discussion over at Called to Communion

For anyone interested in seeing the discussion I am having with David Anders and other Roman Catholics at the Called to Communion blog, on "The Witness of Lost Christianities" ( The Oriental Orthodox - The Monophysite/ Miaphysite Churches of Coptic, Syrian-Jacobite, and Armenian, and Assyrian-Nestorian Churches of Mesopotamia and the Persian Empire)

We have recently been getting into issues on justification, Augustine's view of merit, the early church exalting Mary too much and giving Islam a wrong impression of the doctrine of the Trinity and the phrase "Son of God" and "Mother of God" original meaning, Mary's role, the marriage of Church and State, baptismal regeneration, calling the Lord Supper / Eucharist, a "sacrifice".


Algo said...


Very nice work.

Also John Bugay's contributions are really good as well.

Ken said...

Thanks Algo,
It's getting overwhelming now; with more and more joining the conversation and Bryan Cross has long entries with lots of links to other long articles.

Yes, John Bugays comments are really good; and his older ones in older comboxes that Bryan Cross linked to were also very good.

Challenging to get a handle on, but when one has the time, very interesting.

Historical theology and church history are very interesting.

Algo said...

As James has described it. They are playing:

Spy vs. Spy

"The church’s liturgy preceded the written word — and not everything down in the liturgy of the early church was written down in Scripture. Even Paul himself alludes to church tradition that is oral vs. written down (See 2 Thessalonians 2:15)"


“Well…yes and no.
I don’t hold to the sort of “partim-partim” idea, in which there are some teachings utterly absent from Scripture and only passed down via oral tradition.”

guy fawkes said...

I disagree. I don't think Mary is being exalted nearly enough on any of the discussion blogs. I mean, think about it, how can we overdo exalting the woman God chose to be His mother? When we exalt the things of God, do we not exalt God? Just as praising the Mona Lisa exalts Da Vinci.