Friday, March 13, 2009

For any that followed the discussion between Turretinfan and Matthew Bellisario in regard to my post "Can You Pray To Whoever You Want To? Let's Ask Jimmy Akin", Turretinfan has posted a helpful review:

To Whom Can Roman Catholics Pray?

On a related note, Dr. White reviewed another clip from Jimmy Akin that we've been calling, "We Don't Need No Stinking Bible Verses!" This clip may be my all time favorite from Jimmy Akin.

Here is the MP3 clip, Jimmy Akin: We Don't Need a Verse . However, I'd suggest listening to Dr. White's review as well.


Andrew said...

I heard James White say once that a Roman Catholic RCIA teacher he debated thought that it was okay to pray to St. Martin Luther. He said this during a cross exam with Sungenis. I thought that was a little bizarre.

James Swan said...

it was okay to pray to St. Martin Luther

I recall this as well. However, before calling him "saint Luther", why shouldn't I try and contact him in purgatory and ask him to pray for me? That would've been my follow up question to Jimmy Akin.

Algo said...


I am listening to this excellent series again now:

The audio links are here:

James Swan said...


Rich contacted some time back asking for my compilation of Dr. White’s Review of the Akin BAM Debate mp3's. I recall sending them over to him... do you know if he ever posted the mp3 back up?

Algo said...


My top link in the comment above was to your post at

"I went through the Dividing Line archives, and extracted all the material addressing the Akin BAM debate, compiling four MP3’s, together totalling around four hours.

Dr. White’s Review of the Akin BAM Debate (Part One)

Dr. White’s Review of the Akin BAM Debate (Part Two)

Dr. White’s Review of the Akin BAM Debate (Part Three)

Dr. White’s Review of the Akin BAM Debate (Part Four)

The content of these four MP3’s will be extremely helpful for those of you regularly engaging Catholic apologists or evangelizing Catholics. Dr. White spent a lot of time addressing authority issues, and this is really the heart of the matter. When Catholics make authority claims, it’s important to be aware of what they’re saying, and what they’re consciously not saying, or rather, avoiding. Also addressed are canon issues and justification."

However the hyperlinks are not attached to your 4 parts.

That's why I posted the link below that coincides with your 4 links.

The first Divding Line that you identify is Aug 02 2007.