Friday, November 02, 2007

Fan Club Testimonials

These are comments from the latest Feeding frenzy. I let these people speak for themselves. They are a reminder to all of us, "The things that come out of the mouth come from the heart."

"the issue is the double standard with which James Swan (and men like him who are also irrationaly biggoted towards Catholic personages of the past and present) operates. Furthermore, if James allowed quibbles to be quibbles when Catholics made them, then we would not be having this discussion. I agree that it comes across as petty, but there is a James Swan legacy of double standards here that is really irritating those of us who are aware of it."

"James, you make Bill Clinton look like a straight talker. Is the statement you made true or false. Never mind what you and Chris agreed to pretend it means. Did Luther "have a hand in the execution of Anabaptists?" You said "no." Do you stand by that or do you not? If you do then you should try and defend what you said. Saying that you and Chris have some secret squirrel code that caused you both to understand something different. Not only is that hard to believe but it is beside the point. You made a public statement. Words mean things."

"If I thought for one minute that the fact that he honestly misunderstood a plain English question would convince him that he might honestly misunderstand Catholic apologists or that he might honestly misunderstand medieval conciliar documents steeped in Thomist metaphysics he hasn't even studied, then I might agree with you. But expecting James Swan to actually learn any sort of restraint or common sense in his dealings with Catholics is like expecting a hungry lion not to kill a gazelle; unreasoning emotion isn't susceptible to reform by reasonable considerations. Consequently, the only service this can do is to point out the inconsistent quality of his critical thinking for those who might be inclined to uncritically take his word on the subject."

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Words do mean things. I shall pray for you James, for you stand condemned by your own standards, and your soul is slowly dying. Your natural antipathy towards Papist ecclesiology and apologetics prevents you from granting anything to those nasty Catholics, even if they might have a point. By embracing a lie you betray Truth. In betraying Truth you betray Christ. That is not good for your soul.
Wayen

Carrie said...

I shall pray for you James, for you stand condemned by your own standards, and your soul is slowly dying.

Well, there you go.

Turretinfan said...

I had expected that at least some of them would admit their mistake once they realized that the question understood = the question intended.

The fact that they refuse to admit they (not James) misunderstood the question is evidence that the criticism is pretext.

James: your reminder is exactly correct.

James Swan said...

Words do mean things. I shall pray for you James, for you stand condemned by your own standards, and your soul is slowly dying. Your natural antipathy towards Papist ecclesiology and apologetics prevents you from granting anything to those nasty Catholics, even if they might have a point. By embracing a lie you betray Truth. In betraying Truth you betray Christ. That is not good for your soul. Wayen

Some of you probably think a comment like this would make me angry or sarcastic. While of course, the person is wrong in evaluating my motives, and goes by the assumption that I hate Catholics (I do not), I actually rather respected this person's comment in at least believing that my beliefs are eternally wrong.

James Swan said...

One last point, I'm stunned Wayer used the word "Papist"...makes me wonder if this wasn't a jokster. I've never met a Catholic who used this word in such a way.

James Swan said...

sorry, "Wayen"- not "Wayer"

Anonymous said...

"The things that come out of the mouth come from the heart."


So back when you tagged Carrie's website as a "Catholic" site, knowing it obviously was not, was it the deception of your heart that typed--or does it apply only to the mouth?

EgoMakarios said...

I suppose when Luther told the princes to kill the peasants like dogs etc. (which thing they did do) he didn't have a "hand" in their actions, even though he authorized them. Of course, the Pope never sold any indulgences, but we say he did because he authorized it. Swan is clearly playing the papist and redefining terms to where he never has to admit to being wrong.