Showing posts with label Table Talk. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Table Talk. Show all posts

Friday, July 08, 2022

Luther: "For, where God built a church, there the devil would also build a chapel…In such sort is the devil always God's ape."

 From the depths of cyberspace...

Would the devil ever attempt to beget in Roman Catholic persons a regard to the divine Word of God?
Of course. One of the wise statements made by Luther...
For, where God built a church, there the devil would also build a chapel…In such sort is the devil always God's ape.
Colloquia Mensalia (1566) ch. 2 (tr. H. Bell as Martin Luther's Divine Discourses, 1652)
The question in italics was asked by a non-Roman Catholic. The answer was from a Roman Catholic. Reading between the lines, I suspect the answer may either be a simple nod to an agreement with the statement attributed to Luther... or more insidiously, Luther is that person in which the devil beget "a regard for the divine Word of God."  If the later, that notion has precedent in Roman Catholic evaluations of Luther going all the way back to Luther's contemporary nemesis, Johannes Cochlaeus. 

When a participant pointed out that Luther died in 1546, not 1566, Rome's defender responded, "That's a direct Luther quote from the first English addition of Martin Luther's Divine Discourses (1652). His "Table Talk" discourses." Let's take a closer look at this quote. We'll see it's not a direct quote from Luther, and in context, Luther isn't being properly utilized to answer the question being asked.

Documentation
The reference provided was, "Colloquia Mensalia (1566) ch. 2 (tr. H. Bell as Martin Luther's Divine Discourses, 1652)."  Typical of many of Rome's defenders, I suspect this quote is a cut-and paste, since the same form and reference is found on this webpage, and also here.

The reference is accurate... to a point. "Colloquia Mensalia (1566)" refers to the first edition of Luther's Tischreden, or Table Talk (Tischreden oder Colloquia Doct. Mart. Luthers (Eisleben: Urban Gaubisch, 1566) compiled by John Aurifaber. What's being cited though is not this 1566 German edition, but rather a 1652 English edition translated by Captain Henry Bell. No page number is cited by Rome's defender, only that the quote is found in chapter 2.  On page 35 of the 1652 edition, the text reads: 




The same German can be found in WA TR 4: 612. WA cites FB 1, 91 (92). Unfortunately, for me the trail ends here. I was unable to determine if this was a recollection from Aurifaber or if he relied on another source.  LW points out that Aurifaber is less trustworthy than other manuscripts of Luther's recollected sayings. Aurifaber also presented his material topically. With his presentation of this quote, it's weaved together with a 1540 recollection from John Mathesius (#5010) about what God was doing before creation.  For the context below, I utilized this English translation of Aurifaber. 

Context
When one asked, where God was before heaven was created? St. Augustin made answer thereunto and said, He was in himself. And as another (said Luther) asked me the same question, I said, He was building of hell for such idle, presumptuous, fluttering spirits and inquisitors. After he had created all things, he was everywhere, and yet he was nowhere; for I cannot fasten nor take hold of him without the Word. But he will be found there where he hath bound himself to be. The Jews found him at Jerusalem by the throne of grace, Exodus, xxv. We find him in the Word and faith, in baptism and sacraments; but in his majesty he is nowhere to be found.
It was a special grace in the Old Testament, when God bound himself to a certain place where he would be found, namely, in that place where the tabernacle was, towards which they prayed; as first, in Silo and Sichem, afterwards at Gibeon, and lastly at Jerusalem in the temple.
The Greeks and heathens in after times (said Luther) did imitate the same, and did build temples for their idols in certain places, as at Ephesus for Diana, at Delphos for Apollo, &c. For, where God built a church there the devil would also build a chapel. They imitated the Jews also in this, namely, that as the most holiest was dark, and had no light, even so and after the same manner did they make their places dark where the devil made answer, as at Delphos, and elsewhere. In such sort is the devil always God’s ape. 
But (said Luther) whereas the most holiest must be dark, the same did signify that the kingdom of Christ no other way was to be taken hold of and fastened, but only by the Word and by faith.

Conclusion
Probably half of my Roman Catholic Luther studies involve tracking down obscure Luther quotes, and more often than not, these quotes find their way back to the Table Talk. It often falls on deaf ears when I point out to the defenders of Rome that Luther didn't write the Table Talk. Since the statements contained therein are purported to have been made by Luther, they should serve more as corroborating second-hand testimony to something Luther is certain to have written.  

In the context above, Luther's point is that the "Greeks and heathens" were imitating the Jews by building temples to their gods. When Luther is recorded saying, "where God built a church there the devil would also build a chapel." this has nothing to do with the devil attempting to "beget in Roman Catholic persons a regard to the divine Word of God." Typical of Rome's defenders, many do not bother to look up what they cite from Luther. In this instance, even a truncated second-hand Table Talk comment doesn't support their polemical attacks.

Monday, February 08, 2021

Luther: “Men have broad and large chests, and small narrow hips, and more understanding than women..."

On the web page, Twenty Vile Quotes Against Women By Church Leaders from St. Augustine to Pat Robertson, the following Martin Luther quote is mentioned:

Men have broad and large chests, and small narrow hips, and more understanding than women, who have but small and narrow breasts, and broad hips, to the end they should remain at home, sit still, keep house, and bear and bring up children. –Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546), Table Talk 

This quote is one of a number proving "Christianity produced a steady diet of misogyny for over 2000 years," put forth by a "former evangelical," now a "psychologist and writer." Her biography can be found here. She appears to still embrace some form of spirituality, but rallies against conservative Christianity. It's interesting that while her entry spans the entirety of church history, she chose a big picture of Martin Luther to head her blog post (pictured here also).

Let's take a closer look at the quote. It's easy to cherry-pick quotes from church history, especially with an agenda and self-imposed blinders. While Luther was not in any sense a modern-day feminist, he was not the simplicity of a few quotes strung together to make him "vile."  

Documentation

The quote has traveled far, found not only in a number of webpages, but published books as well. The webpage simply says, "Table Talk," while correct, isn't a helpful reference. Which Table Talk? There are multiple versions of the Table Talk, both in their original languages and later English translations. 

The bulk of this Table Talk comment was recorded by Luther's associate Veit Dietrich sometime in 1531. LW 54 states Dietrich "had a gift for getting the substance of Luther's remarks on paper" but was not always interested "in reporting the particular situation to which the Reformer was addressing himself" (LW 54:5). Such is the case with this remark. There is no context, at all. 

The comment can be found in WA, TR 1:19,


The original transcription was in a Latin / German mix (with the word "home" being in Greek, oikouros). "Keep house, and bear and bring up children" was not recorded by Dietrich, but appears to be an addition by John Aurifaber. Aurifaber did record some of Luther's comments, but only in the last year of his life, so he did not personally witness this remark. He relied on the notes of others, becoming, in essence, an editor of the primary sources. "Keep house, and bear and bring up children" appears to be an example of Aurifaber smoothing over the original text. In Dietrich's version, Luther is recorded as ending by saying women should stay home because they have big hips and wide buttocks to sit on. What was perhaps Luther making a crude comment in jest was smoothed over with the addition of "being homemakers and raising children." 

Aurifaber's popular German version  was the means by which the comment made it's way into English.  Aurifaber's German text reads 


This German version was translated into English in the seventeenth-century, but further complicated things by combined two different Table Talk utterances together (80, 81):


Then the English was eventually revised in the eighteenth-century (similarly combining two different Table Talk entries). Eventually, some later English versions of the Table Talk separated the comment back to its isolated form. It appears the version being utilized by the feminist blogger actually wasn't taken from any of these, but rather a secondary source because of the uniqueness of the phrase "more understanding than women," The actual English versions of the Table Talk typically read, "more understanding than the women."

This particular Table Talk statement was included in Luther's Works (LW 54:8), combining Dietrich with Aurifaber's ending denoted by brackets. Notice also LW's smoothing over "latum podicem" with the obscure English rendering, "fundament."

Context
No. 55: The Difference Between Men and Women Summer or Fall, 1531
“Men have broad shoulders and narrow hips, and accordingly they possess intelligence. Women have narrow shoulders and broad hips. Women ought to stay at home; the way they were created indicates this, for they have broad hips and a wide fundament to sit upon [keep house and bear and raise children].”

Conclusion
Luther didn't write the Table Talk. Since the statements contained therein are purported to have been made by Luther, they should serve more as corroborating second-hand testimony to something Luther is certain to have written. The "former evangelical" using the quote would've given herself more credibility had she first documented the quote correctly, then, secondly, not used it at all, but rather utilized a quote with a context and a better pedigree (something actually written by Luther). From our current western pro-feminist zeitgeist, she would've certainly found some actual Luther quotes. 

The basic problem with the feminist using this quote is that it's selective in leaving out all the other positive things Luther said about women that don't fall in the category of "vile." Factor in also the comments Luther made about his wife (which would double the size of this entry). Did the "former evangelical" consider any of this evidence? I have my doubts. It's simply human nature, be it male or female, to vilify that which we're against, to treat people unfairly, especially if they've been dead for many centuries, lived in a different time period and in a different culture... that's the way discrimination works.  

From my contemporary perspective, I suspect the original source reveals Luther was probably making a crude joke. This though is only speculation. Regardless, it's not the sort of comment I approve of, even in jest.  Was it a "vile" quote against women? That depends. If one has a modernist sensitivity to anything that speaks negatively of women, even in jest, then, yes. If Luther was simply making a joke, humorists have made fun of the social and physical differences between men and women for centuries, relying on broad stereotypes.  

Monday, December 28, 2020

Luther: No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise

On the web page, Twenty Vile Quotes Against Women By Church Leaders from St. Augustine to Pat Robertson, the following Martin Luther quote is mentioned:
No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise. –Martin Luther, Reformer (1483-1546), Table Talk

This quote is one of a number proving "Christianity produced a steady diet of misogyny for over 2000 years," put forth by a "former evangelical," now a "psychologist and writer." Her biography can be found here. She appears to still embrace some form of spirituality, but rallies against conservative Christianity. It's interesting that while her entry spans the entirety of church history, she chose a big picture of Martin Luther to head her blog post (pictured here also). 

Let's take a closer look at the quote. It's easy to cherry-pick quotes from church history, especially with an agenda and self-imposed blinders. While Luther was not in any sense a modern-day feminist, he was not the simplicity of a few quotes strung together to make him "vile."  

Documentation

The quote has traveled far, found not only in a number of webpages, but published books as well. The webpage simply says, "Table Talk," which in essence, isn't a helpful reference, but the majority of uses I found either don't provide a reference or similarly mention the Table Talk

The quote does come from the Table Talk.  It's from the recollection of Luther's associate, John Schlaginhaufen, who recorded Luther's' remarks from 1531-32. The comment probably dates from May 1532. The comment can be found in WA TR 2:130 (#1555):


The comment made it into English via the German version of the Table Talk put together by John Aurifaber (FB. 1, 208 above). The text reads


This German version was translated into English in the seventeenth-century:


Then the English was eventually revised in the eighteenth-century:

What ill becomes the Women.
There is no gown nor garment that becomes a woman worse (said Luther), than when she will be wise.
There are also subtle English variations: 
"There is no gown or garment becomes a woman worse" (said Luther), "than when she will be wise." (1832)
There is no gown or garment that worse becomes a woman than when she will be wise.  (1848)
 Examples of the English version that began this entry can be found in the early twentieth-century.  

An interesting contemporary English rendering comes from Susan C. Karant-Nunn and Merry E. Wiesner-Hanks, Luther on Women: A Sourcebook: "There is no dress that suits a woman or maiden so badly as wanting to be clever." In their rendering, "wanting to be clever" has a different spin than wanting "to be wise."


Context

As with many Table Talk comments, there is not a context provided.  The Table Talk is a collection of second hand comments written down by Luther's friends and students, published after his death.



Conclusion

Luther didn't write the Table Talk. Since the statements contained therein are purported to have been made by Luther, they should serve more as corroborating second-hand testimony to something Luther is certain to have written. The "former evangelical" using the quote would've given herself more credibility had she first documented the quote correctly, then, secondly, not used it at all, but rather utilized a quote with a context and a better pedigree (something actually written by Luther).  From our current western pro-feminist zeitgeist, she would've certainly found some Luther quotes. 

Here's an opportunity to point out to Rome's defenders how wonderful "tradition" is (yes, that's sarcasm). Luther inherited his views on women from that which preceded him (as do we also). The basic overview from Luther on Women: A Sourcebook is helpful: "Luther's view of women's nature is continuous with that of earlier thinkers and compatible with the opinions of many other sixteenth-century theologians." They go on to mention an interesting historical tidbit: 


Luther was not an abject misogynist, nor a consistent misogynist. Another blogger examining the quote made an interesting observation.  If one were to follow the method of citing the Table Talk for Luther's positions, the entry that comes before the quote in question says, 
I have oftentimes noted, when women receive the doctrine of the gospel, they are far more fervent in faith, they hold to it more stiff and fast, than men do; as we see in the loving Magdalen, who was more hearty and bold than Peter.
Factor in also the comments Luther made about his wife (which would double the size of this entry). Did the "former evangelical" consider any of this evidence? I have my doubts. It's simply human nature, be it male or female, to vilify that which we're against, to treat people unfairly, especially if they've been dead for many centuries, lived in a different time period and in a different culture... that's the way discrimination works.

Saturday, July 04, 2020

Martin Luther: History is like a drunk man on a horse. No sooner does he fall off on the left side, does he mount again and fall off on the right.

Here's a colorful saying attributed to Martin Luther:
“History,” Martin Luther said, “is like a drunk man on a horse. No sooner does he fall off on the left side, does he mount again and fall off on the right.” (source)
Documentation
Most often the quote is not documented. Curiously, an article found on the Christian History Institute website presented an entire article expounding what Luther meant, by taking a "closer look" at "both at Luther’s remarks and Luther himself".... without actually documenting the quote!

I'm not the first to come across this documentation problem. This old discussion post asks for help locating the source, and they actually arrived at the source: Luther's Table Talk.  The Table Talk is a collection of second-hand comments written down by Luther's friends and students, published after his death. Luther didn't write the Table Talk. Since the statements contained therein are purported to have been made by Luther, they should serve more as corroborating second-hand testimony to something Luther is certain to have written.

This particular second-hand comment was recorded by Veit Dietrich in 1533. There is no context surrounding the remark.  The German text can be found at WA Tr 1:298 (631). The text reads:


This text is included in LW 54:111. My electronic copy of LW 54 lists this Table Talk entry as 630.  This is an error: it's actually 631. 


Context 
No. 630: The World Is Like a Drunken Peasant
Fall, 1533
“The world is like a drunken peasant. If you lift him into the saddle on one side, he will fall off on the other side. One can’t help him, no matter how one tries. He wants to be the devil’s.” (LW 54:111)

Conclusion
There are various versions of this quote:

1800: Human reason is like a drunken man on horseback; set it up on one side, and it tumbles over on the other.

1952: Luther surely spoke very good sense when he compared humanity to a drunkard who, after falling off his horse on the right, falls off it next time on the left.

1992Human nature is like a drunk peasant. Lift him into the saddle on one side, over he topples on the other side.

1993: Martin Luther said that humanity is like a drunk man on a horse. First he falls off on one side, then he climbs back up and falls off the other side.

2007: Martin Luther - an intemperate and hasty man, but far from a fool- once remarked that humanity is like a drunken peasant trying to ride a horse. We mount, fall off on one side, remount, and fall off on the other.

2014: Martin Luther said history is like a drunk man on a horse going from one ditch to the other, and it seems that is the case with us.

I'm sure many other examples of this quote are available. This is only a brief sampling. In the earliest version, it's "human reason" which is like a drunk person on horseback.  Then, it's humanity or "human nature." Finally, it's "history" which is like a drunk person on a horse.

According to the primary source, it's the "world."

Monday, April 27, 2020

Luther in the Thunderstorm, "Help me, Saint Anne, and I will become a monk." Fact or Fiction?

Martin Luther's dramatic decision to become a monk while cowering in a thunderstorm is popular in print and throughout cyber-space.  Examples could be endlessly multiplied, but for simplicity sake, let's use that provided on-line by Ligonier Ministires in which Stephen Nichols stands outside a building in Erfurt:
In 1505, Martin Luther was here in Erfurt. He had received his master’s degree in January, and he just spent a few months studying law. He thought he’d go home and pay a visit to his family, so he traveled about 90 kilometers to the north to the town of Mansfeld. On the way back, Luther was caught in a violent thunderstorm, in fact, he thought God had unleashed the very heavens to take his life. So Luther tried to get shelter, and he found this big granite rock, and he grasped it, and he cried out, “Help me, Saint Anne, and I will become a monk.”
The Ligonier link goes on, in essence, to describe the deficiencies of Luther's medieval Roman Catholic worldview.  This dramatic story captures Luther's unwavering youthful dedication to the church of Rome (via his reliance on a mediator other than Christ, Saint Anne), his fear of God, his anfechtungen, and his ultimate need for the Gospel. It's a powerful way to begin his story. Some have gone so far as comparing the story to Paul on the way to Damascus. This author goes to the extreme of speculating that perhaps Luther was also thrown off his horse during the storm! But is is true? Recently, I came across one of Rome's defenders challenging it:
What I can't fathom is that most protestants know very little about their "father", Martin Luther. He was a disobedient Augustinian monk; obedience to their Superiors and the Church is a vow he took. He was, in today's language, a wayward Catholic. This unbelievably arrogant man, who only became entered the Church after (as the fairytale goes) not being struck by lightning during a storm. He, apparently, saw this as a sign from God that he was protected to enter clerical life. This same man (the protestant father) had debates with the Devil. Imagine that a "good man" debating with Satan himself. 
Each sentence drips with blatant disdain for Luther.  Such vitriol is symptomatic of an absence of  rational Reformation research.  The "fairy-tale" statement though on Luther's vow to Saint Anne is intriguing: it unwittingly challenges a popular Protestant historical narrative used by professional historians. It can be found in the opening paragraph of Roland Bainton's of Here I Stand, as well as Heiko Obermann's Luther: Man Between God and the Devil, to name only two of perhaps thousands who treat the story credibly. Let's dig into Reformation history and figure out where this event was recorded and if the details are trustworthy or a fairy-tale.

Documentation
Whether it's books or web-pages, the story is often told without a reference. Unlike a lot of Luther tidbits used by Rome's defenders,  the primary source for this one isn't too hard to track down. The story comes from the Tischreden, in English, the Table Talk. The Table Talk is a collection of second-hand comments written down by Luther's friends and students, published after his death. Luther didn't write the Table Talk. Since the statements contained therein are purported to have been made by Luther, they should serve more as corroborating second-hand testimony to something Luther is certain to have written.

The statement can be found in WA TR 4: 440, entry 4707.  The text reads,


This comment was taken down by Anthony Lauterbach, an eyewitness to the actual statement, whose collection dates from 1538-1539. LW 54 posits that he wasn't trying to document Luther's life, but rather his own! According to LW, Lauterbach was good with recording dates. The dating of this story does play a role in its veracity.

The dating of the story is tricky. As per WA, the date of the remark is listed as July 16,1539 ("16. Iulii").  In the actual remark, Luther says, "Today is the anniversary of my entrance into the monastery at Erfurt" (July 16). There's sometimes confusion here. Some sources say he entered on July 16, while the overwhelming majority say it was July 17. Most biographies point out he announced his intentions to join the monastery to his friends on July 16, in fact this very Table Talk comment mentions the gathering of Luther and friends on July 16. Technically, Luther is referring to the night before he entered the monastery as the anniversary date.

This story recorded by Lauterbach in 1539 is thirty-four years removed from when it was said to have occurred in 1505.  In many of the accounts, the thunderstorm date is calculated as July 2, 1505 because in the Table Talk comment itself, the story of the storm and his vow to Saint Anne is said to take place "two weeks earlier on his way through Stotternheim." That would therefore place the date at or around July 2, 1505.

Some scholars try to infer a dating error on the statement of July 16.  Ironically, St. Anne's feast day was on July 26. Grisar appears to follow this. When he cites the story, he references it as "Luther to his friends on the feast day of St. Anne, July 16 (?26), 1539." He refers to Bindseil's third volume of Luther's Colloquia, p.187, but that text clearly says it was the feast day of St. Alexius, July 16, 1539 (though the feast is on July 17!). Oddly, Grisar elsewhere notes it was the Feast for Alexius.  On the other hand, with the date of the storm on July 2, 1505, Franz Posset simply says "Oddly enough, the feast day of St. Anne is celebrated not on July 2, but on July 26" (p.53).

To my knowledge, there's been no "official" English translation of this Table Talk statement by the keepers of Luther's writings. Typically, the story has been used by authors expressing the comment in their own words. Some have extensive embellishments.  For instance, this author tells the story in a much greater detail than the actual original context provides.  Even the Ligonier version that began this entry has details not in the original context: "Luther tried to get shelter, and he found this big granite rock, and he grasped it...".  The "granite rock" and shelter seeking is not in the original context.

There are though extended English versions found here and here. These will serve as the English translation.

Context
"Today is the anniversary of my entrance into the monastery at Erfurt"¬ and he began to tell the story of how he had vowed his vow. About two weeks earlier on his way through Stotternheim, not far from Erfurt, he had said in terror, "Help, Saint Anne, I promise to become a monk!" "But God heard my vow in Hebrew where Anna means by grace as opposed to by law."
And also:
On July 16, the day of [St.] Alexius, he said, "Today it is the anniversary of my entry into the monastery in Erfurt." And he began to recount the story how he had made a vow almost fourteen days earlier when underway he was upset by a lightening bolt near Stotternheim, not far From Erfurt. In his fear he had called out, "'Help me holy Anna, I want to become a monk.' At that time, however, God regarded my vow in Hebrew: Anna, that is to say, in grace and not under law. I regretted my vow, and many told me that I shouldn't keep it. I persisted, however, and on the day before [St.] Alexius, I invited my best friends to say goodbye so that they could accompany me to the monastery the next day. When they wanted to hold me back, I said 'Today you will see me for the last time.' Under tears they brought me away. Also, my father was very angry about the vow, but I stuck to my decision, I never considered leaving the monastery. I was completely dead to the world."

Conclusion
This basic historical inquiry shows Luther did not write down anywhere that he made a vow to Saint Anne. The historical veracity of the vow is based solely on a second-hand statement recorded by a former student and friend of Luther's, thirty-four years removed from the actual event. There's no reason though that I'm aware of to doubt that Anthony Lauterbach accurately transcribed what he heard Luther say,  nor is there any reason to suspect that Lauterbach put forth his own emendations.  On the other hand, the evidence of Table Talk statements should serve more as corroborating second-hand testimony to something Luther is certain to have written or stated elsewhere. I'm not aware of any corroborating witnesses recording the same vow to Saint Anne, nor am I aware of any others in Luther's lifetime that credibly attest to it.

A glaring problem some see with the vow to Saint Anne is Luther's statement, "But God heard my vow in Hebrew where Anna means by grace as opposed to by law."  Roman Catholic writer Franz Possett states,
A critical examination of the Table Talk shows that Luther said that God understood his "vow" as spoken in the Hebrew language because "Anna" in Hebrew means "under grace." [H]anna derived from the Hebrew root hen. Yet, is such linguistic and religious self-interpretation from hindsight in agreement with reality? One may have doubts. Luther at the time did not have an inkling of Hebrew. How could he have "spoken the vow in the Hebrew language"? Luther did not want to make a historical-biographical, but a theological statement. What he wanted to say is this: his life's journey is the outcome of God's grace" (p.53).
Possett based his comments on "Angelika Dörfler-Dierken: Luther und die heilige Anna, LUJ 64 (1997) 19-47." It's a meaningful observation: that Luther links the vow to a Hebrew exposition without actually knowing Hebrew speaks loudly of theological embellishment thirty-four years removed. Even if it's only asserted that Luther spoke in German and God understood it in Hebrew, it still points to interpolation. It can't be ruled out that all of Luther's vow to Saint Anne is an embellishment, but the Hebrew aspect of it certainly raises suspicion that Luther was pouring in meaning using insights he gleaned during the course of twenty years.

While the vow to Saint Anne has only one second-hand  attestation, there is evidence that Luther decided to become a monk during a storm. In a letter to his father in 1521, he says that he had been called by "terrors from heaven" and that he,
...did not become a monk of my own free will and desire, still less to gain any gratification of the flesh, but that I was walled in by the terror and the agony of sudden death and forced by necessity to take the vow. Then you said, "let us hope that it was not an illusion and deception" (LW 48:332).
This testimony does have corroborating Table Talk evidence:
No. 623: Father Criticizes Luther for Becoming Monk Fall, 1533
He [Martin Luther] became a monk against the will of his father. When he celebrated his first mass and asked his father why he was angry about the step he took, the father replied reproachfully, “Don’t you know that it’s written, Honor your father and your mother?” [Exod. 20:12]. When he excused himself by saying that he was so frightened by a storm that he was compelled to become a monk, his father answered, “Just so it wasn’t a phantom you saw!” (LW 54:109)
There is also a letter written to Luther from Crotus Rubeanus, October 16, 1519 that testifies to the storm. Notice that a comparison of Luther in the storm is compared to Paul on the road to Damascus.  Rubeanus states,
Whenever you, Martin, are mentioned, I am wont to call you the pater patriae, worthy of a golden statue and of annual feasts, for having first dared to deliver the people of the Lord from noxious opinions and to assert true piety. Go on as you have begun, leave an example to posterity; for what you do is not without the inspiration of the gods. Divine Providence intended this when, as you were returning from your parents, a thunderbolt from heaven prostrated you like another Paul on the ground before the town of Erfurt and forced you from our company, sad at your departure, into the walls of the Augustinian fold.
There is also a description of Luther's reasons for entering the monastery from Luther's friend Justus Jonas, though this testimony was taken down by an anonymous person. Similarly, the content does not mention a vow to Saint Anne, and only mentions the basic facts.

That a violent storm played a role in Luther's entering the monastery, and that it strongly influenced him seems most likely, it's at least better documented. Only the most bare historical treatments see Luther's entrance into the monastery due to a vow to Saint Anne as the sole direct cause. Better treatments mention quite a number of factors, the thunderstorm only playing a partial role.

Is Luther's vow to Saint Anne a fairy-tale? Not necessarily. Assume Luther was telling the truth, he had no reason to make up the story, and the story was transcribed correctly. It also does correspond to the better-attested storm details. The story does though demonstrate the difficulties of substantiating history.  In this case, Luther's vow to Saint Anne is based on a second-hand comment thirty-four years after it happened, and is never directly tied to anything Luther ever wrote or preached. The comment itself does appear to include embellishments. In fairness to Rome's defender, he unwittingly raised an interesting issue as to the basis of particular historical facts. A happy medium would be for those using Luther's vow to Saint Anne, to do so cautiously and not as the sole reason for Luther's decision.

Saturday, March 14, 2020

Did Luther Say, "The Bible is alive; it speaks to me. It has feet; it runs after me. It has hands; it lays hold of me"?

Did Martin Luther say, "The Bible is alive; it speaks to me. It has feet; it runs after me. It has hands; it lays hold of me"? I'm not so sure he did. This is a murky quote people love to mention but have no idea where it came from. The picture to the left is one of many found on the Internet.

Here are some popular sources that attribute the quote to Luther:
James Montgomery BoiceJoel Beeke,  Table Talk Magazine, The Gospel Coalition,  Christian History Magazine, John MacArthur, Relevant Magazine, The Women's Study Bible, Greg Laurie, Michael Youssef, Ron Rhodes,  The Christian Postthe Lutheran StandardWarren Wiersbe, Tim ChalliesThe Museum of the Bible, to name but a few of the bigger names.

There's also some quirky citations of it: the Christian Science Journal,  the Alpha Course,  a book on the "Catholic" way to pray,  and this person sells a calligraphic version for $700This person includes it as "4 Martin Luther quotes that changed my faith." It's also one of "50 profound Martin Luther quotes about faith," and also in the "top 30 quotes of Martin Luther."

Luther may have said something similar to this quote, but I suspect he never exactly said,  "The Bible is alive; it speaks to me. It has feet; it runs after me. It has hands; it lays hold of me."


Documentation
In most instances there is no documentation provided for this quote, even in sources that should have some sort of meaningful reference (c.f., Christian History).

John MacArthur comes close to an actual meaningful reference. He says it came from page 207 of Luther's Table Talk. What MacArthur actually was quoting though was the back cover blurb of a modern edition of Luther's Table Talk, not the actual text.  (see image to the right, that's page 207). Joel Beeke similarly cited a 2005 edition of the Table Talk, and also extended the quote to include, "The Bible is not antique of modern. It is eternal." Beeke's reference likewise doesn't deliver anything useful.

In contemporary sources, the safest documentation I've seen are authors quoting other authors that have used the quote. For instance,  James Boice cited Joel Beeke.   Journey Magazine and Zondervan Academic quote Christian History Magazine (which doesn't cite  a source). This author quoted this author. etc.

Possible Origin: Julius Hare
So if no one appears to be able to document the quote meaningfully, where did it come from? Based on a sampling of books from the nineteenth-century to the present (see Addendum #2 below), here's' my theory. In  the mid-nineteenth century (1846), a capable scholar named Julius Hare wrote the following:
Well indeed did Luther know the power of God's word, the power which goes along with it when it is truly the sword of the Spirit. He knew it, as he here tells us, from what he himself had felt: in fact he could not have spoken of it as he does, except from personal experience. He knew it too from the effect which he had often seen it produce, when it issued with the power of the Spirit from his own lips. And so far as any written words can yield us a conception of that power, and realize the description he gives of it, his do: as he himself has somewhere said of St Paul's words, they are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet.
Hare appears to have been familiar with Luther's writings (he even wrote a book called, Vindication of Luther). The gist of what Hare says about Luther and the power of God's word is connected with what Luther "somewhere said of St. Paul's words" that "they are not dead words, but living creatures and have hands and feet." There are obvious similarities with  "The Bible is alive; it speaks to me. It has feet; it runs after me. It has hands; it lays hold of me," and also some obvious differences. The most direct similarity is the use of hands and feet. Also, the words of Scripture (albeit Paul's words), are alive... or not dead. That of course is also one of the main differences as well: that Hare is speaking of Luther's opinion of St. Paul, not the entirety of the Bible. Notice also, Hare is not directly citing Luther, he's summarizing Luther.

I suspect Hare's Luther comments may have eventually turned into the quote as it's found today. His comment was picked up by other writers, particularly by William John Conybeare, in his popular book, The Life and Epistles of St. Paul, Volume 1, (originally printed in 1849), a book which went through multiple printing during the nineteenth-century. Notice the author refers to Hare's comment:





Conybeare turned Hare's synopsis into a direct Luther quote! Hare's words then morphed over time as they were cited by different authors, either knowingly or unknowingly, sometimes citing Hare, sometimes borrowing from someone who utilized Hare. Below in Addendum #2 is a sampling of versions of the quote found in books from the nineteenth-century to the twenty-first century. This is not exhaustive; some of the books cited below went through multiple editions. You can see the how the quote subtly changed over time. The popular form of the quote (as it's found today) appears to have entered into existence sometime in the 1940's (see below).

Conclusion 
There are a number of comments from Luther about the "living word" peppered throughout his writings. Below in Addendum #1, I've included a Table Talk quote in which Luther is said to have stated, "The words of our Savior Christ are exceeding powerful; they have hands and feet... ", and a snippet from a sermon in which Luther says of the Word, "these are not inert or dead words, but active and living." Did Martin Luther specifically say though,  "The Bible is alive; it speaks to me. It has feet; it runs after me. It has hands; it lays hold of me"?  The evidence below in Addendum #2, though not exhaustive, suggests he probably did not.

It appears this quote may actually be an apocryphal English Luther quote that popped up in the mid-twentieth century. It looks as if the quote may have morphed from the original, "St Paul's words... are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet." But where did that Luther quote about Paul originate? I've found no evidence that Luther said this either. The earliest evidence points to a passing comment by Julius Hare who said that Luther said it "somewhere." I've yet to find which Luther writing Hare is referring to, but because of his caliber of scholarship, it is possible that "somewhere" Luther may have actually said it. So far, I've not found anything at all. Perhaps Hare himself read someone else saying it! 

Granted, this search has been limited to English. I did a cursory search for "Die Bibel lebt, denn sie spricht zu mir; sie hat Füsse und läuft mir nach; sie hat Hände und ergreift mich," and "Hände und Füße" and found no earlier uses. Interestingly, the quote in its full form does show up in recent German usages, but not nearly as much as English uses.

I'm not the only one to suspect this quote is dubious.  A  book of Catechetical Helps published by Concordia uses the quote and at least recognize that it's "attributed" to Luther:


Zondervan's 1001 Quotations book is the only source I found (so far) that cautiously says, "Citation: Unknown":


Addendum #1
Here is the closest I could find in the Table Talk to the quote:
The words of our Savior Christ are exceeding powerful; they have hands and feet; they outdo the utmost subtleties of the worldly-wise, as we see in the Gospel, where Christ confounds the wisdom of the Pharisees with plain and simple words, so that they know not which way to turn and wind themselves. It was a sharp syllogism of his: ‘Give unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s;’ wherewith he neither commanded nor prohibited, but snared them in their own casuistry.
And also this sermon from Luther states:
Where the heart is unoccupied and the Word does not sound, Satan breaks in and has done the damage before we are aware. On the other hand, the Word possesses such power wherever seriously considered, heeded, and put into practice, that it never remains barren of fruit. It always awakens new thoughts, new pleasures and devotions, and cleanses the heart and its meditations. These are not inert or dead words, but active and living, and although no other interest or need impel us to the Word, yet everyone should be induced to use it by the fact that thereby Satan is put to flight and hunted down.

Addendum #2- The "Quote" in its Literary Use 

Nineteenth-Century Uses of the Quote
1846- Well indeed did Luther know the power of God's word, the power which goes along with it when it is truly the sword of the Spirit. He knew it, as he here tells us, from what he himself had felt: in fact he could not have spoken of it as he does, except from personal experience. He knew it too from the effect which he had often seen it produce, when it issued with the power of the Spirit from his own lips. And so far as any written words can yield us a conception of that power, and realize the description he gives of it, his do: as he himself has somewhere said of St Paul's words, they are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet.
1849- “His words are not dead words—they are living creatures, with hands and feet,” touching in a thousand hearts at this very hour the same chord of feeling which ..." [This is an extract from William John Conybeare's book, The Life and Epistles of St. Paul, Volume 1.  Luther isn't mentioned, though Conybeare is citing Luther via Hare.]
1853His words are not dead words, they are living creatures with hands and feet, touching in a thousand hearts at this very hour the same chord of feeling which..." [This is a review of Conybeare's book, Luther is not mentioned, but the quote is used]. 
1856-  His words are not dead words, they are living creatures with hands and feet," touching in a thousand hearts at this very hour the same chord of feeling which vibrated to their first utterance. [A quote is specified (" "), but Luther is not mentioned]. 
1858We can never read any of his writings without being reminded of his own remark on the Epistles of Paul, — " St. Paul's words are not dead words ; they are alive and have hands and feet." [From a review of the then recently published English translation of Luther's First Five Chapters in Genesis].
1859- Luther's words, “as he himself has somewhere said of St. Paul’s words, “are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet.’ [citing Hare]
1865- Many of the great words and topics of theology, and still more of the Bible, are not dead words, whose classification is of importance merely for the sake of perspicuity (such as ‘genuine'-authentic”—“canon,’ &c.); but they are, as Luther says of St. Paul's words, ‘living creatures with hands and feet.'
 The first instance I found in which "Paul" was left out and replaced with the phrase, "the Word of God" occurred later in the nineteenth-century, but the version with Paul also continues:
1867 In this subordinate sense it is also true what the apostle says of the Word of God, it is living; and what Luther used to express in his realistic way, “it has hands and feet.”
1869- Luther said of Paul's preaching, "His words are not dead words; they are living creatures, with hands and feet." 
1873-  "His words are not dead words; they are living creatures, with hands and feet." 
1878-  Nothing from the apostle better justifies Luther's hyperbole, "The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures and have hands and feet."
1879- "The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet." Luther meant thereby to describe...
The English textual tradition of the quote continues to be intermingled between referring to Paul, and to a lesser extent, the Word of God (or the Bible), with echos back to Hare's phraseology:
1881-Luther once said, in homely phrase, "The Bible has hands and feet." In this pompous style, which is a travesty upon natural expression, it has feet, indeed; but they are the clumsy feet of the elephant.
1882- Never was there a truer description of any style than that which Luther gives of the style of the Apostle : 'The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet.'
1883- It would ill become us, who enjoy the blessings of the Reformation through the open Bible, which Martin Luther called "living words with hands and feet," if we were to be silent on the occasion of his birthday...
1883- As he has said of St. Paul's words, his own are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet.  [This book cites Hare directly].
1884As he has said of St. Paul's words, his own are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet. [This book cites Hare directly].
1884- Again, Luther's words had a natural life of their own—hands and feet, as he himself said of the words of the Bible—which gives him a singular advantage in dealing with the spiritual life.
1888Martin Luther once wrote: "The words of the apostle Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures, they have hands and feet."
1888- Some of you may have heard Luther's celebrated description of St. Paul's language: "The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet."
1890-  Luther used to say that "the words of the Bible, and especially the words of our Lord, were not dead words, but had hands and feet, by which they could, as it were, take a strong grasp of the human heart, and make their own progress there." 
1891- St. Paul is emphatically the seer. "His words are not dead words, they are living creatures, and have hands and feet." [Luther not mentioned].
1892- It was inspired by an inspired pen that he wrote his living epistles,  of which Luther said, "His words are not dead words, they are living creatures with hands and feet."
1893- The words of the Bible, not least those of St Paul, are not dead words, but living. They are of all races and ages. [Luther not mentioned]
1895-.He did not mince his words. He was terribly in earnest, and we may say of his words as he said of Paul's, that they are “living creatures, and have hands and feet.”
1889- Martin Luther. ... As he has somewhere said of Paul's words, they are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet. It no longer ...
1889- The great words of theology, and still more of the Bible, are not dead words, whose classification is of importance merely for the sake of perspicuity; but are, as Luther says of St. Paul's words, " living creatures having hands and feet." By getting below the surface, by making out what they are, or were in themselves, we arrive at the very essence of the Christian doctrine or dogma.—Dean Stanley.

Twentieth-Century Uses of the Quote
Hare's original comment continued to be utilized, sometimes with a reference back to him, sometimes not. Also, the interplay between "Paul," "the Word of God" and "the Bible" continues to be intermingled.
1901-The door was closed, and, as far as the Church of Palestine was concerned, no new intruder was ever admitted. But there were several modifications still possible, so difficult is it even for the strictest rigour to fetter those books, 'which are 'like living creatures with hands and feet.'
1902- "His words were half- battles, " " they were living creatures that had hands and feet"
1902- ...but living words- as Martin Luther puts it, with hands and feet. 
1905'The Word of God liveth and abideth.' That does not mean that it lasts; other books do that. It does more, it lives! It is a thing alive. As Luther said in his strong way, 'It has hands and feet.' 'The Word of God is quick and powerful,' or, as the Revised Version has it, 'The Word of God is living and active.'
1905- Archdeacon Hare: “As he has said of St. Paul's words, his own are not dead words, but living creatures, and have hands and feet. [Hare cited directly].
1906Martin Luther once wrote: "The words of the apostle Paul are not dead words ; they are living creatures, they have hands and feet."
1906:  "The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet." Luther.
1908- The Bible is there, as it is, the Book of Man, and the Book of God; human and divine. No search into its texture and composition alters its effect as a Book. Be it what it may, it has hands and feet. It moves, it grips us. [Luther not mentioned at all]
1909- As Luther says, "His words are not dead words, they are living creatures, and have hands and feet." 
1911As Martin Luther said three hundred years ago, so can we still say: “His words are not dead words, they are living creatures with hands and feet..."
1916- Jerome says that his words are so many thunders, whilst Luther compared them to living creatures with hands and feet.
1917- As Martin Luther said three hundred years ago, so can we still say: "His words are not dead words, they are living creatures with hands and feet..."
1937-What Martin Luther said of Paul's writings is true of all Scripture, that its words are not dead words, but are living creatures and have hands and feet.
1941- Luther, a great German, said: "They are not dead words, they are living creatures, and have hands and feet."
1946- The words of St. Paul," said Luther, "are not dead words, they are living creatures, they have hands and feet." 
 In the Journal of Bible and Religion Vol. 15 of 1947, the currently popularized longer version of the quote makes an appearance, without documentation. The quote appears in an a review of "Preaching Values in the Bible by Corwin C. Roach," the reviewer, George Dahl.
1947- Preachers and congregations alike will be led to discover once more with Luther that "the Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me." The value of the book would be considerably enhanced by the...
In a text from 1948,  the exact rendering of the quote appears as it's now popularly presented, without documentation. I suspect the source isn't even book (only a limited preview is available): The First Church Visitor, "Published Semi-Monthly by The First Baptist Church of Madison Wisconsin, Edited by Rev. Charles R. Bell."

The sampling English textual tradition that I utilized simply picks up again, and the quote in its fuller popular form begins to emerge more, particularly towards the end of the century:

1948 His words were half-battles,” “they were living creatures that had hands and feet”
1955? - Luther remarked that the Bible has hands to grip, eyes to see, feet to run.
1955: the Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me;
1956- Martin Luther over 400 years ago said of Paul's writings: “His words are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet."
1962- (Christianity Today Magazine) - As Luther picturesquely said of the Pauline epistles, “The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures and have hands and feet.”
1967- The Bible is alive; it speaks to me. The bible has feet; it runs after me. The bible has hands; it lays hold of me. Martin Luther 1483-1546 
1971- All the world knows how the words and the deeds of former times became in his hands, as Luther describes the Apostle's language, 'not dead things, but living creatures with hands and feet.' 
1972- The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me.
1976-The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me. Martin Luther
1977- The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands...
1978The words of St. Paul, said Martin Luther, are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet.
1981Yet the Bible must always be seen for what it is, the actual Word of God, “living and powerful,” ... As Luther picturesquely said of the Pauline epistles, “The words of St. Paul are not dead words; they are living creatures and have hands and feet."
1983- The Bible is alive; it speaks to me; it has feet—it runs after me. It lays hold of me.—Martin Luther
1986-Martin Luther once stated, "The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me."
1986-  The words of St. Paul are not dead words, but are living creatures that have hands and feet to carry away a man (Luther)
1986- The words of St. Paul, said Martin Luther, are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet. 1  [a reference is given: "Quoted on the title page of Arthur S. Way, The Letters of Saint Paul (1935)." In actuality, the book is older. Here is the title page of the 1906  second edition]:

1989-The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays its hold on me. Martin Luther 
1990-Martin Luther said, "The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold on me." 
1993"The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold on me. Martin Luther
1994- As Martin Luther said, "The Bible is alive ... it speaks to me ... it has feet ... it runs after me ... it has hands ... it lays hold on me."
1995-Martin Luther said of the Bible, "This book is alive; it speaks to me. It has legs; it runs after me. It has hands; it lays hold of me."
1997- Martin Luther once wrote of God's Word, "The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me. The Bible is not antique of modern. It is eternal." [Reference given : "Quoted by Joel R. Beeke and Ray B. Lanning, “The Transforming Power of Scripture" in Sola Scriptura: The Protestant Position on the Bible, ed. Don Kistler (Morgan, PA: Soli Deo Gloria Publications, 1995), p. 331, 332"]. Note also, "The Bible is not antique of modern. It is eternal" is attached to the quote.
1998- "The Bible is alive, Martin Luther once said; "It speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me: it has hands, it lays hold of me."
1999-The words of St. Paul, said Martin Luther, are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet.[Documentation: "Quoted on the title page of Arthur S. Way, The Letters of St. Paul (1935)."
Twenty-first Century Uses of the Quote
The use of the long version of the quote greatly increases while Hare's original logion fades further into the background. Whereas the earlier version of the quote was used in more technical works,  twenty-first century uses are often found in devotional material or Christian self-help books (a trend that started in the late twentieth century).
2001- "To me, the Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me" — Martin Luther ..
2004- Concerning the Scriptures Martin Luther said, "They are not dead words; they are living creatures, and have hands and feet."
2006- "The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold on me.
2006- The bible is alive- it has hands and grabs hold of me, it has feet and runs after me. 
2008- Martin Luther, the cause and founder of the Protestant Reformation in 1517, said, “The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has ...
2009- The leader of the Protestant Reformation, Martin Luther, whose life was profoundly changed by the thoughtful reading of Scripture, said, “The Bible is alive, it speaks to me, it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold of me.”
2009- Believers discover with Martin Luther that “the Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold on me. The Bible is not antique, or modern. It is eternal.” [Reference: Cited in Thomas S. Kepler, ed., The Table Talk of Martin Luther (Mineola, N.Y.: Dover, 2005), 197.]
2011- When the great Reformer Martin Luther said, 'The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold on me,' he was reflecting the truth the Church has always known but which it often forgets,
2015- The Bible is alive, it speaks to me; it has feet, it runs after me; it has hands, it lays hold on me." -Martin Luther