This image above was pulled off Facebook. In the first quote, Luther supposedly said,
"It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary's soul was effected without original sin; so that in the very infusion of her soul she was also purified from original sin and adorned with God's gifts, receiving a pure soul infused by God; thus from the first moment she began to live she was free from all sin." -Martin Luther's Sermon "On the Day of the Conception of the Mother of God," 1527.
If you're thinking, "that really doesn't sound like Luther," then kudos to you for your discernment skills! This was one of the first weird Roman Catholic Luther quotes I investigated. It just didn't sound right. Eventually I compiled this entry documenting my journey with this quote. Since the quote still circulates online, here's what you need to know:
1. Where does the quote come from? The English version of this quote probably comes from a translation of Roman Catholic historian Hartmann Grisar's book, Luther, IV. Whichever Roman Catholic apologist originally cut-and-pasted it from the book to the Internet neglected to mention Grisar states,
The sermon was taken down in notes and published with Luther's approval. The same statements concerning the Immaculate Conception still remain in a printed edition published in 1529, but in the later editions which appeared during Luther's lifetime they disappear.
and also:
As Luther's intellectual and ethical development progressed we cannot naturally expect the sublime picture of the pure Mother of God, the type of virginity, of the spirit of sacrifice and of sanctity to furnish any great attraction for him, and as a matter of fact such statements as the above are no longer met with in his later works.
2. Who deleted this quote? Luther did, or an editor authorized by Luther.
3. Why did Luther delete this quote? The sermon collection it appeared in was put together by Stephen Roth. Roth actually added in material not from Luther. Luther was highly displeased with what Roth put together.
4. Did Luther write this quote? He probably did not. The editors of Luther's Works point out:
Originally, Luther may have held something similar to the Thomist position, put forward in the Festival Postil (1527), sermon on the conception of Mary, WA 17/2:287-288, though the material in question seems to be solely the responsibility of its editor, Stephan Roth (d.1546), and was removed from the 1528 and subsequent editions: see StL 11:959-961; Baseley 1:50-51. In his later preaching, Luther affirmed that Mary had been both conceived and born in sin and connected her purification from sin with the work of the Holy Spirit at the time of Christ's conception... (LW 58:434-435, fn. 10).Conclusion
It amazes me that this quote still circulates as Roman Catholic propaganda on the Internet. We've been given this incredible ability to have immediate information, yet, Roman Catholic propagandists don't do the basic work of a looking up a quote before splattering it all over the Internet. These are the same people that claim reading the church fathers will make one become Roman Catholic!
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I am from Spain and am very fortunate to have found this website about a year ago. At that time I was a Roman Catholic looking for answers to the doubts I had about Romanism and its contradictions. This website made me discover the countless defamatory falsehoods that Romanism has poured out on Luther and true Christianity, falsehoods that I believed to be true all my life. Thanks to your apologetics and to Chemnitz's work "Examination of the Council of Trent", last August I finally embraced true Christianity, after endless and anguishing months of reflection. You do not know the immense good you have done for me. You have freed me from the spiritual tyranny of the papacy, and have made me know Jesus Christ more and better. God has used this website as a tool to pour grace upon grace into my life. My happiness and gratitude are immense.
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Hi J.V.,
Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words! They are very much appreciated!
James
I’m a Catholic and I’d like to respectfully start a conversation about this. The blog says that Luther “never said” the quote “It is a sweet and pious belief that the infusion of Mary’s soul was effected without original sin…” because it was removed from later editions. But it also admits the quote was in an earlier sermon published under Luther’s name.
This is what Aristótle would call allacy of denying the antecedent: just because Luther later rejected the view doesn’t mean he never expressed it. The quote belongs to the accidental order of his opinions, not the essential core of his mature theology.
Also, I think the post uses a straw man by attacking historians instead of dealing with the real question — that Luther may have changed his mind over time. A fairer view is that he probably said it early on but later changed his position.
So, my disagreement isn’t about whether the quote exists, but about dismissing it completely, which doesn’t seem logical.
Welcome Lone Cogitator.
1. Exactly where in the blog entry proper do the words, “never said” Appear? When I text search this entry (including the comments) the only time “never said” appears is when you posted the two words using quotes. On the other hand, as I've looked at this quote over the years, it seems to me more likely the work of Roth than Luther. Note the words I posted from LW 58 "... though the material in question seems to be solely the responsibility of its editor, Stephan Roth."
2. As per Aristotle: Nowhere in this entry do I claim Luther never in his career believed in the immaculate conception. In fact, I cite LW 58 stating, “Originally, Luther may have held something similar to the Thomist position…” Also, I have a number of other blog entries that admit Luther may have held to the immaculate conception, probably previous to 1527. Links available upon request.
3. As per Strawman: I’m extending to you the benefit of the doubt that you missed the included hyperlink on the words “this entry.” If you visit that link, you’ll see my original full version investigation of the quote from 15 years ago. Textual criticism is a keyway to analyze written sources. For this particular quote, its pedigree of accurately representing Luther’s lifelong view is entirely spurious.
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