http://www.npr.org/2011/06/12/137102746/women-priests-defy-the-church-at-the-altar
As members of the Roman Catholic Church, these female priests are all breaking church rules, which allow ordination only to baptized males. No member of the Roman Catholic Womenpriests has been excommunicated by the Church, but they have felt repercussions. They've not only been threatened but also have lost friends and colleagues within the Church — many of whom fear they will lose their jobs if they support the women's ordination movement openly.
LaRosa recognizes they are breaking Church law — specifically Canon 10:24 — but says, "when you have an unjust law, sometimes it needs to be broken before it can be changed."
Archbishop Raymond Burke did excommunicate a group like this a few years ago in St. Louis. It's only a matter of time until that happens to this group.
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I think that perhaps the "blockquote" tags fell off your block quote.
ReplyDeleteIt is possible that the attempted ordinations may have resulted in some automatic excommunications - I'm not sure about that.
Funny, how they acknowledge they're breaking Canon Law such-and-such, but no mention of how they're violating 1 Peter 3:1-6, 1 Tim. 2:12; Titus 2, 1 Cor. 14:34-35 or 1 Cor. 11:3.
ReplyDeleteHow you can defy God so openly while claiming to want to "serve" Him is mind-boggling to me.
The pictures say the ceremony was at St. John's United Church of Christ - that is not a Roman Catholic Church - so how can that amount to anything?
ReplyDelete"In 2002, seven women were secretly ordained as priests by two Roman Catholic bishops in Germany. After their ordination, a kind of domino effect ensued."
ReplyDeletethe two bishops were men. According to Roman Catholic claims, they have their anointing and charsm and authority because they were from an unbroken line of bishops going all the way back to Peter. What they do is "ex opere operato" - from the work, it works, it is effective - the ordination of the women is effective, gives grace, according to RCC doctrine. ( on that issue of the grace flowing from a valid bishop to another). But the broke canon law and I Timothy 2:12 (as Marie pointed out). So what happened to the grace that that was transferred from the bishops to the first women? I guess the violation of canon law nullifies any grace being a part of their ordination.
"I guess the violation of canon law nullifies any grace being a part of their ordination. "
ReplyDeleteWhich would have a reverse domino effect, since who knows whether the chain of ordinations was broken by some similar canonical violation in the past.
http://cyberbrethren.com/2011/06/10/a-serious-argument-against-the-ordination-of-women/
ReplyDeleteCyberbrethern carried this excellent statement by an Anglican bishop of Rwanda, the other day (link above).
Marie's statement is also well taken.
Outside of the issue of priests versus elders/bishops, this is a subject with a basic clarity, but with some difficulties, and contrary arguments are dealt with here, by God's grace.
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