This is a sad, yet interesting irony about Reformation history- many want to either claim Luther, or disown Luther. For a man so despised by so many groups, it’s ironic how those with a particular viewpoint think if they appeal to Luther, somehow or another the large majority of Protestant Christendom will take them seriously. On the other hand, those wishing to distance themselves from historic Protestantism appeal to Luther as well; they argue that Luther was immoral and therefore Protestantism is fraudulent. Both approaches are futile.
The last blog entry documented the alleged Pentecostal Luther who spoke in tongues. Then of course, there’s the Roman Catholic Luther who was “quite devoted” to the Virgin Mary. There’s the anti-Semite Luther used by Neo-Nazi’s. There’s even a polygamist Luther, precursor to the Mormons. This just scratches the surface- there’s a lot more Luther’s out there.
Let’s take a look at another Luther: The Seventh Day Adventist Luther who advocated ‘soul sleep.’
For those of you who aren’t quite sure what this is- ‘soul sleep’ is the idea that after death the soul ‘sleeps’ until the final resurrection. In other words, after dying the soul doesn’t go consciously into the direct presence of God. Rather, it hibernates until the resurrection- when it is then awakened and reunited with its body.
I was sent a link to this discussion thread. The Seventh Day Adventist who started this discussion quoted this from a pro-SDA website :
“Archdeacon Francis Blackbume states in his Short Historical View of the Controversy Concerning an Intermediate State, of 1765: Luther espoused the doctrine of the sleep of the soul, upon a Scripture foundation, and then he made use of it as a confutation of purgatory and saint worship, and continued in that belief to the last moment of his life.”
Before actually delving into Luther’s understanding of ‘soul sleep’ - it’s interesting to look at the facts above carefully. While Luther did affirm 'soul sleep', it would be incorrect to think that his view on this topic was the reason he denied purgatory and saint worship.
I don’t recall ever reading Luther use ‘soul sleep’ to refute purgatory or saint worship. Most often Luther pointed out that Purgatory was not taught in Scripture, and also that it served as an income generating doctrine for the Papacy. Both of these were strong enough arguments to refute Purgatory. I haven’t read Luther anywhere using ‘soul sleep’ to refute saint worship either- this may exist, but I haven’t read it. Luther knew that prayers to, and faith in the saints violated the First Commandment. If Luther ever did apply ‘soul sleep’ to “confute purgatory and saint worship”, it must have been sparsely. So right from the beginning, it’s obvious that Luther’s view on ‘soul sleep’ is being mishandled by the Adventists.
According to the Seventh Day Adventists, once the soul awakes it is either sent off to eternity or annihilated- thus they deny the immortality of the soul. Interestingly, they try and grab Luther for this one as well. The Adventist gentleman who gave this quote also linked to an article by an Adventist. The article wants one to believe that Luther was part of a growing group"of those who denied the natural immortality of the soul, and avowed the conditional immortality of man." The article notes, "On December 19, 1513, in connection with the eighth session of the fifth Lateran Council, Pope Leo X issued a Bull (Apostolici regimis) declaring, "We do condemn and reprobate all who assert that the intelligent soul is mortal."
Here was a fascinating quote found in the link:
"Then, on October 31, 1517, Luther posted his famous Theses on the church door in Wittenberg. In his 1520 published Defence [sic] of 41 of his propositions, Luther cited the pope's immortality declaration, as among "those monstrous opinions to be found in the Roman dunghill of decretals" (proposition 27). In the twenty-seventh proposition of his Defence[sic] Luther said:
'However, I permit the Pope to establish articles of faith for himself and for his own faithful—such are: That the bread and wine are transubstantiated in the sacrament; that the essence of God neither generates nor is generated; that the soul is the substantial form of the human body that he [the pope] is emperor of the world and king of heaven, and earthly god; that the soul is immortal; and all these endless monstrosities in the Roman dunghill of decretals—in order that such as his faith is, such may be his gospel, such also his faithful, and such his church, and that the lips may have suitable lettuce and the lid may be worthy of the dish.—Martin Luther, Assertio Omnium Articulorum M. Lutheri per Bullam Leonis X. Novissimam Damnatorum (Assertion of all the articles of M. Luther condemned by the latest Bull of Leo X), article 27, Weimar edition of Luther's Works, vol. 7, pp. 131, 132 (a point-by-point exposition of his position, written Dec. 1, 1520, in response to requests for a fuller treatment than that given in his Adversus execrabilem Antichristi Bullam, and Wider die Bulle des Endchrists).'
Note what’s being perpetrated: Luther denies the immortality of the soul. How can this be? It can’t. Imagine, a Christian who didn’t believe at least some souls are immortal. Now a Seventh Day Adventist is trying to use this to prove Luther believed in the annihilation of souls that won’t be saved after they awake from ‘soul sleep’- hence the soul is not necessarily immortal.
But Luther hasn’t said this at all, nor was he part of a growing group"of those who denied the natural immortality of the soul, and avowed the conditional immortality of man." . In LW 32:77 in his expounded defense of the 95 Theses, Luther says:
“Hence the experts in Rome have recently pronounced a holy decree[At the Fifth Lateran Council, 1512–1517] which establishes that the soul of man is immortal, acting as if we did not all say in our common Creed, “I believe in the life everlasting.” And, with the assistance of the mastermind Aristotle, they decreed further that the soul is “essentially the form of the human body,” and many other splendid articles of a similar nature. These decrees are, indeed, most appropriate to the papal church, for they make it possible for them to hold fast to human dreams and the doctrines of devils while they trample upon and destroy faith and the teaching of Christ.”
A helpful footnote explains, “ Luther objects to the substitution of philosophical ideas concerning the immortality of the soul for the biblical teaching of the resurrection and the life everlasting. Cf. Carl Stange, Studien zur Theologte Luthers (Gütersloh, 1928– ), pp. 287–344.” So, Luther is condemning philosophical speculation in the guise of infallible church pronouncements- he’s not denying the immortality of the soul. Elsewhere Luther explains, “When the last Lateran council was to be concluded in Rome under Pope Leo, among other articles it was decreed that one must believe the soul to be immortal. From this one may gather that they make eternal life an object of sheer mockery and contempt. In this way they confess that it is a common belief among them that there is no eternal life, but that they now wish to proclaim this by means of a bull.” (LW 47:37)
Luther repeatedly affirmed the immortality of the soul, and often made it a point to note it is not to be believed because of philosophical speculation. It is to be believed because God has spoken in his Word:
“Although some of the philosophers, like Socrates and others, maintain the immortality of the soul, they were ridiculed by the rest of the philosophers and all but scorned. But isn’t it folly for human reason to be so offended, since it sees that even now the procreation of man is full of wonder? Does it not seem contrary to reason that man, who is to live forever, is born, as it were, from one single droplet of semen in the loins of the father? This is even more absurd than when Moses says that man was formed from a clod by the fingers of God. But reason shows in this way that it knows practically nothing about God, who, merely by a thought, makes out of a clod, not the semen of a human being but the human being itself, and, as Moses states later, makes the woman out of the rib of the man. Such was the origin of man.” (LW 1:84)
“The philosophers have indeed disputed about the immortality of the soul, but so coldly that they seem to be setting forth mere fables. Aristotle above all argues about the soul in such a way that he diligently and shrewdly avoids discussing its immortality anywhere; nor did he want to express what he thought about it. Plato related what he had heard rather than his own opinion. Nor can its immortality be proved by any human reason, for it is not a thing “under the sun” to believe that the soul is immortal. In the world it is neither seen nor understood as certain that souls are immortal.” (LW 15:59)
Further reading:
The Seventh Day Adventist Luther: Soul Sleep and the Immortality of the Soul(Part two)
The Seventh Day Adventist Luther: Soul Sleep and the Immortality of the Soul(Part three)
Um, Jim, I was in the middle of reading this and--not that I found it boring or anything--but my soul fell asleep...
ReplyDeleteAnother good article, bro :-)
Peace,
Ray
Very funny Ray. Actually, I had forgotten about Luther and soul sleep- about 5 years ago an SDA guy on CARM brought this up- nice guy, very articulate. I can't find any of my previous work on this in my files from this discussion- it's forcing me to do it all over again.
ReplyDeleteRee had sent me the link to the current CF discussion.We'll see how this one plays out.
Interesting conclusions you have drawn but as a Seventh-day Adventist and the one who started the thread about Luther and "soul sleep" I do not put Luther above what he was.
ReplyDeleteIn other words I am not appealing to Luther to establish any Adventist credibility.
I support what Luther said in manmy things and disagree on others.
"soul sleep" and moratilty of the soul is Biblical.
One must at first extablish what a "soul" is.
The Bible tells us that when God breathed into Adam, he then became a "living soul".
Another version says that Adam became a "living being"
Your whole body is your soul. It is not some mysterious part that becomes separated from your body at death.
The life that is in your body is from God and returns to God at death. That life is no longer a part that is in heaven and is able to look down at earthlings to see them in action.
It is the spark of life that is much like an electrical circuit. You come into a room and turn the light power on. (God breathed into Adam). You go out of the room and turn the light power off (God took away from Adam the spark of life and Adam died).
Where did the p[ower go when you went out of the room? The circuit was then broken and the light went out. It is much the same way with God.
There are no souls or part of your being floating around in heaven.
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blessings
cliff
Hi Cliff-
ReplyDeleteThanks for stopping by.You commented,
Interesting conclusions you have drawn but as a Seventh-day Adventist and the one who started the thread about Luther and "soul sleep" I do not put Luther above what he was.In other words I am not appealing to Luther to establish any Adventist credibility.
Recall on the CF discussion thread you also said:
Amazing to think that it is now about 500 years since the great reformer gave us so much light about the gospel.
It does not matter what I say or what even Luther says.I quoted this to show everyone that the Protestant reformers believed in the Bible.
My point stands: you are using Luther to establish the Adventist position. Simply because you deny this does not mean you're not doing it.
It's fascinating that you dismiss the thread because it mentions Luther and you show a bunch of quotes from Luther, but you don't actually address the main point (when we die, we simply aren't, or "asleep").
ReplyDeleteI haven't read the thread (so it might have already brought this up), but I would like to share something I have been studying recently. People who believe we immediately go to heaven or hell when we die generally also believe in the Second Coming, when we come back to earth to get back our earthly bodies.
Paul in 1 Corintians 15:35-58 explains how the bodies we now have and the bodies those who are saved will have for all eternity are different. Why, if we already have our new bodies in heaven (for "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption"), do we need to come back to earth to get earthly bodies?
The point still stands, the Bible teaches that the dead are in the grave. Most of them anyway. Until the first and second resurrections.
ReplyDeleteLuther believed the saints will live forever -after- the resurrection. I think that's clear. It's something else to say that Luther believed in annihilation of the wicked. I haven't read anything on that wise.
I'd like to follow your blog and invite you to follow mine!
ReplyDeleteMarcos Torres
jesusadventismandi.blogspot.com
I'd like to follow your blog and invite you to follow mine!
ReplyDeleteThanks, but I typically only "follow" 3 blogs regularly:
1.aomin.org
2. Triablogue
3. TurretinFan
I suggest you follow these blogs as well.
To Marcos Torres above:
ReplyDeleteIf your website is unable to condemn Ellen G White as a false prophet, you are sinning by inviting others to follow your blog, which, running thru the little sin calculator app over in James 2:10, tells us you keep zero days holy, but deceive others that you do! Shame on you. Sorry for being 7 years late on this.
The SDA's pernicious sin of promoting a false she-prophet while simultaneously rebelling against Jesus' command at Matt 7:15-23 negates any claim to keeping a day holy, because James 2:10 says SDA's break the whole law, which means they are also liars, sabbath defilers, God blasphemers, thieves, and murderers. Such keep zero days holy as required by their precious Exodus 20:8. Such big hypocrits they are, which is yet another sin!
And they are still unable to find themselves in 1 Timothy 1:-10. Spiritual blindness is another of their sins! They actually are the Mt Everest of sin.
They swerved, having turned aside unto vain jangling.
Do not look for SDA's in heaven, for every single one is a deceived, miniature false prophet. Good chance they will be tormented day and night for eternity, Rev 20:10