tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post8873212828504114075..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Luther's Prayers for the DeadJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-52956549312657689122015-05-16T09:22:31.956-04:002015-05-16T09:22:31.956-04:00Though Luther later came to a place that his theol... <i>Though Luther later came to a place that his theology would not allow for prayers and suffrages for the dead, how do we reconcile his development of theology with the teachings of the early Christians? </i> <br /><br /> Seeing as Rome's own development of theology includes beliefs contrary to teachings of the early Christians, <a href="http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/deformation_of_new_testament_church.html" rel="nofollow">esp. those manifest in Scripture </a>, the question is, how can Rome reconcile these?<br /><br />The answer is that, as the CE states, the Catholic church judges them more than she is judged by them, but which extends to Scripture. For Rome has presumed to infallibly declare she is and will be perpetually infallible whenever she speaks in accordance with her infallibly defined (scope and subject-based) formula, which renders her declaration that she is infallible, to be infallible, as well as all else she accordingly declares.<br /><br />PeaceByJesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08754948549904895669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-43982266947766396022015-05-16T09:16:58.320-04:002015-05-16T09:16:58.320-04:00Old post I know, but if Luther still allowed for t...Old post I know, but if Luther still allowed for the possibility of a postmortem purgatorial existence and a prayer for the dead in 1528, then it would seem to militate against the charge that the primary reason Luther opposed the apocryphal books of the OT is that they taught doctrines he did not like, such as praying for the dead.PeaceByJesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08754948549904895669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-9567915686169647302013-04-29T00:38:27.739-04:002013-04-29T00:38:27.739-04:00There could have been a number of reasons. There a...There could have been a number of reasons. There are times when I I'm too busy to respond to blog comments that are tangential to the post in question.<br /><br />At the time, had Dr. Rentler admitted he was presenting an inaccurate picture of Luther and made the necessary corrections to his blog entry, perhaps I would've taken his comment with more seriousness.<br /><br />I just checked his entry, and it still appears to be in the same form as I found it in 2012.<br /><br /> James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-49845022274628798302013-04-29T00:30:50.940-04:002013-04-29T00:30:50.940-04:00I'm puzzled why you responded to Heather and n...I'm puzzled why you responded to Heather and not Dr Rentler...is it not after all his article that you critiqued? It would seem that if anyone has a right to comment and to have that comment responded to, it would be him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13443389377564271719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-45503493194273430092013-04-28T23:35:19.729-04:002013-04-28T23:35:19.729-04:00Hi Heather,
I typically don't engage tangents...Hi Heather,<br /><br />I typically don't engage tangents on particular entries, which is why I didn't engage Dr. Rentler above.<br /><br />Purgatory, as you seem to understand it, is being read back into the Bible rather than exegeted out of the Bible.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-72797164611790676192013-04-28T16:41:46.400-04:002013-04-28T16:41:46.400-04:00Purgatory IS found in scripture! This is Hades/ Sh...Purgatory IS found in scripture! This is Hades/ Sheol/ Purgatory... Different languages, same thing. Even the parable of Lazuras suggests such a place, as does the decension of Jesus, after being crucified and the gates to Heaven were reopened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-63881696850634804242012-11-16T09:51:32.420-05:002012-11-16T09:51:32.420-05:00Just reading this today, and thought it to be fitt...Just reading this today, and thought it to be fitting here (as well as the CA Roast post):<br /><br />We can see, in looking at Luther, great and glorious Luther, how Romanism tinged all that he did more or less; and the darkness of the age cast some gloom even over the serene and steadfast soul of Calvin; of each one of the reformers we must say the same; bright stars as all of these were, yet they kept not themselves untarnished by the sphere in which they shone. Every man is more or less affected by his age, and we are obliged, as we read history, to make continual allowances, for we all admit that it would not be fair to judge the men of former times by the standard of the nineteenth century.<br /><br />Teaching is often judged, not by its own value, but by the prejudices which people may happen to have concerning the source from which it comes. <br /><br />There is a tendency, among us all, I suppose, to choose some part of the truth, and attach undue importance to that, to the neglect of other truths. <br /><br />Truth lies between two extremes, and man, like a pendulum, swings either too much this way or that. <br /><br />The right way usually lies between two extremes: it is the narrow channel between the rock and the whirlpool. - Spurgeon (<a href="http://www.spurgeon.us/mind_and_heart/quotes/b.htm" rel="nofollow">Backsliding Through Bias - Spurgeon .us</a>) PeaceByJesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08754948549904895669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-3706672683688065692012-11-11T14:28:12.804-05:002012-11-11T14:28:12.804-05:00James, would you elaborate on Augustine's stat...James, would you elaborate on Augustine's statement that was also in my article in light of Luther's later denial of the doctrine of purgatory?<br /><b>"The universal Church observes this law, handed down from the Fathers, that prayers should be offered for those who have died in the communion of the Body and Blood of Christ when they are commemorated in their proper place at the Sacrifice"</b><br />Though Luther later came to a place that his theology would not allow for prayers and suffrages for the dead, how do we reconcile his development of theology with the teachings of the early Christians?Russ Rentler, M.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00659833542780220795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-34050802633422670182012-11-11T06:42:29.933-05:002012-11-11T06:42:29.933-05:00Hi James,
Great refutation again. Luther and the ...Hi James,<br /><br />Great refutation again. Luther and the Lutherans owe you a great deal. Thanks!<br /><br />MartibMartin Yeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10161902509192193592noreply@blogger.com