tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post1535533644329372743..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Quick UpdateJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-34220880430997748672011-01-25T06:20:50.796-05:002011-01-25T06:20:50.796-05:00My question is for James Swan. I am trying to trac...<em>My question is for James Swan. I am trying to track a phrase from Luther that a roman catholic says he found in WA Tr 3, 75, n.° 2911a. Or maybe: D. Martin Luthers Werke, Tischreden, 6 t , Weimar 1912-21. The whole issue is a phrase that Luther says after the Peasants war</em>.<br /><br />I had <a href="http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2010/09/luther-i-have-slain-all-peasants.html" rel="nofollow">this post </a> finished in draft since last October, so I posted it for you. Here's <a href="http://www.archive.org/stream/werketischreden103luthuoft#page/75/mode/1up" rel="nofollow">WA Tr 3, 75, n.° 2911a</a>. It's a shorter version of the quote found in my blog entry (2911b).James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-54964450525887056722011-01-24T23:42:37.452-05:002011-01-24T23:42:37.452-05:00My question is for James Swan. I am trying to trac...My question is for James Swan. I am trying to track a phrase from Luther that a roman catholic says he found in WA Tr 3, 75, n.° 2911a. Or maybe: D. Martin Luthers Werke, Tischreden, 6 t , Weimar 1912-21. The whole issue is a phrase that Luther says after the Peasants war.Reformhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12112755366339806669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-35037698843001525332011-01-22T22:07:29.123-05:002011-01-22T22:07:29.123-05:00Carrie-
The museum was interesting. They had an e...Carrie-<br /><br />The museum was interesting. They had an extensive collection of religious art.... a lot of Mary. It would be a good pilgrimage stop, but I don't think it's on Rome's list.<br /><br />Overall, a nice museum. Worth a visit.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-59934532790730114442011-01-22T06:25:49.516-05:002011-01-22T06:25:49.516-05:00James, glad to know you aren't ignoring me. I&...James, glad to know you aren't ignoring me. I'm sad to say I have never been to the Museum of Art even though I have lived many years in the area. Somehow I don't think my kids would enjoy a visit now.<br /><br />PA - I'm actually in Montgomery county also.Carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04697072499214349759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-65812588714848462362011-01-21T22:55:29.015-05:002011-01-21T22:55:29.015-05:00Hi Carrie and James,
Hey! Most of my customers ar...Hi Carrie and James,<br /><br />Hey! Most of my customers are in Bucks County! I live in Montgomery, though.<br /><br />Hope you have a good time at the museum!<br /><br />--PAPilgrimsarbourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18046918223325823689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-69720795543027622722011-01-21T15:03:28.515-05:002011-01-21T15:03:28.515-05:00Hmm... I don't recall any e-mails from you... ...Hmm... I don't recall any e-mails from you... <br /><br />BUT<br /><br />It's great to hear from you! <br /><br />I think I'm going to the Philadelphia Museum of Art this weekend. So I'll wave somewhere in Bucks county!James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-6621597049274966242011-01-21T06:49:48.215-05:002011-01-21T06:49:48.215-05:00Thanks for the update, James, since you never answ...Thanks for the update, James, since you never answer my emails :)Carriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04697072499214349759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-66383981665770688402011-01-20T16:17:36.399-05:002011-01-20T16:17:36.399-05:00I only wish I had time to write about these things...I only wish I had time to write about these things myself. For instance, I've been working on a series on the Reformers' views concerning Natural Law for about a year, but work and family have made it impossible to finish. I have tons of ideas for how to show the connections of the Renaissance with the Reformation (an extremely important topic given the astonishingly unreasonable Catholic apologist rhetoric about the "novelty" of the Reformation approach to Scripture and theology), but again, no time to seriously work on any of it.<br /><br />I don't mean this in the snse that nobody is doing anything, because obviously that's not true. Still, we need more things like this, and much more dissemination of them. I've lost count of the number of laymen - and even pastors - whom I've heard asking for substantial material on subjects like these. <br /><br />We're being systematically and vigorously targeted by this grossly superficial convert-making industry, but for all the good debates and blog articles and such (which I am in no way demeaning), we always seem to be behind the curve, so to speak, in educating the great mass of our people.Tim Enloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496999199258689044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-86862503959919574632011-01-20T15:21:27.074-05:002011-01-20T15:21:27.074-05:00I wonder if you or someone else here could start a...<i>I wonder if you or someone else here could start a positive series about the Reformation?</i><br /><br />A good idea. Thanks.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-15726601860235906672011-01-20T15:20:02.207-05:002011-01-20T15:20:02.207-05:00I could live without the "death mask" pi...<i>I could live without the "death mask" picture, but I guess it makes the series ;-)</i><br /><br />John,<br /><br />It's an anti-marketing ploy. I'm very good at eliminating readers.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-21070775266627168532011-01-20T12:34:07.221-05:002011-01-20T12:34:07.221-05:00Tim,
I think your suggestion is excellent. I had...Tim,<br /><br />I think your suggestion is excellent. I had planned to do a biographical sketch of Bellarmine, but positive posts detailing the Reformation and its distinctive contributions strike me as a more valuable use of time.Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784922935749497931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-24878368918539052252011-01-20T12:19:16.265-05:002011-01-20T12:19:16.265-05:00Andrew, LOL, invoking T-fan on me -- he is one of ...Andrew, LOL, invoking T-fan on me -- he is one of the Lord's best works.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-16643846786643524592011-01-20T11:46:35.775-05:002011-01-20T11:46:35.775-05:00John, it's a very KJVish word. I suppose Turre...John, it's a very KJVish word. I suppose Turretinfan would approve of the word as well.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056210915546208869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-34682916082387043122011-01-20T11:19:31.367-05:002011-01-20T11:19:31.367-05:00Tim, one of my hopes was to start that very thing,...Tim, one of my hopes was to start that very thing, having first set some of the background of the Roman church as context. But, you know, there are distractions, etc....<br /><br />Andrew, I had to look it up before I posted it :-DJohn Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-43507390620816280502011-01-20T11:08:33.273-05:002011-01-20T11:08:33.273-05:00Yes, indeed, thank you for the posts. Like John, ...Yes, indeed, thank you for the posts. Like John, I haven't read them all, but I have always appreciated your commitment to digging deep into these sources in order to set the record straight about Luther.<br /><br />Your posts don't just show how sloppily many RCs handle the Reformation. They also show how far we Protestants have to go in educating our own people. How many, I wonder, have bought the RC pop apologetics slurs about Luther (and the Reformation generally) and upended their entire spiritual and emotional and intellectual lives - and all for such a mess of pottage as the examinations of these quotes continually proves? <br /><br />I have a lot of constructive things to say about the Reformation, but no time to keep up with my own blog these days. That being the case, and since this series is largely negative (by way of deconstructing bad arguments), I wonder if you or someone else here could start a positive series about the Reformation? Examine its historical and philosophical and cultural contexts, its methods, goals, and mutations?<br /><br />We need to positively and constructively educate our people better, or they'll keep buying the superficial swill you've been so masterfully exposing.Tim Enloehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00496999199258689044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-1899013812679575792011-01-20T10:41:55.839-05:002011-01-20T10:41:55.839-05:00I like the word "dissimulation".I like the word "dissimulation".Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056210915546208869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-62085963612963284802011-01-20T04:53:34.517-05:002011-01-20T04:53:34.517-05:00James, I haven't read all of the series, but I...James, I haven't read all of the series, but I've read enough to have gotten the sense of it. It's just amazing that an institution like Rome relies on such a combination of dissimulation and outright lies for its own survival. <br /><br />I could live without the "death mask" picture, but I guess it makes the series ;-)John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.com