tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post8962560591920387344..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Evidence for Jesus' Trial and Death as real historyJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-17950165909963526512011-04-21T11:26:47.795-04:002011-04-21T11:26:47.795-04:00Echo the first comment by Peace by Jesus.
Thanks ...Echo the first comment by Peace by Jesus.<br /><br />Thanks for the videos.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-89673304125308100582011-04-18T11:34:09.939-04:002011-04-18T11:34:09.939-04:00Ron,
Thanks for directing me to your blog and com...Ron, <br />Thanks for directing me to your blog and comment box. Yes, Dan caught the very first publishing of my article, but within a few hours, I realized my statement was wrong "the main point of Presuppositional apologetics . . ." So I changed it to "one of the main points"<br /><br />here is the rest of what I wrote at Ron's blog. <br /><br />Hey,<br /> Thanks for quoting me - Dan - your quote is the first edition of my statement. I published it on line on Friday evening, but kept re-reading it, and I realized it was wrong, so I changed it. (sometime later Friday evening, I think)<br /><br /> It now reads, "one of the main points of Presuppositional Apologetics is . . ."<br /><br /> "One of the main points of the Presuppositional Apologetic approach, as I understand it, is that bare evidences are not enough to convince the sinner's darkened mind and hard heart to repent. (The "Noetic effects of sin")"<br /><br /> But I changed it within a few hours (? I think) after I wrote it on Friday evening.<br /><br /> Do you guys think it is ok now?<br /><br /> http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2011/04/evidence-for-jesus-trial-and-death-as.html<br /><br /> I confess I don't fully understand all of the Presuppositional method, (I have not read Van Till; but I have read some of Bahnsen and John Frame's chapter in 5 Views, and hear James' White's explanations of it, etc.<br /> <br /><br />[Ron wrote about R.C. Sproul's classical approach to apologetics -]<br /><br /> "but that is due to his Calvinism - it is not a unique tenet of Presuppositional apologetics."<br /><br /> <i>I was under the impression that it was a unique tenent of Presuppositional apologetics - that is, that Calvinism consistently applied leads to Presuppositionalism - the Noetic effects of sin" (on the mind, dead in sin, inability to choose good over evil, etc. - the beginning of knowledge and wisdom is the fear of the Lord, etc.</i>Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17824685809003307918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-18502248400186000282011-04-18T09:11:38.388-04:002011-04-18T09:11:38.388-04:00The description of presup-apologetics is not corre...The description of presup-apologetics is not correct. It is described above as something that can be affirmed by those who embrace traditional apologetics. See comment box for latest post on my site if you like. It was briefly fleshed out there a couple of days ago. <br /><br />Best,<br /><br />RDReformed Apologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17398596496540697639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-90424459303060279932011-04-16T14:20:46.229-04:002011-04-16T14:20:46.229-04:00Thanks for the videos and evidences.
And dispute...Thanks for the videos and evidences. <br /><br />And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, "We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam). (Sura 29:46; Y. Ali) <br /><br />A major problem for the relatively brief Qur'an is that it claims the Bible as a basis for its truth claims, depending upon the Bible in its allusions to it, and evidences it sees the Bible was inspired and given by God, but it was written hundreds of years after the last book of the Bible was penned, and critically contradicts it. <br /><br />This is perhaps due to Muhammad's alleged illiteracy and dependence upon similarly biblically illiterate and confused sources. This would explain how Muhammed could reprove such things as the Christian Trinity consisting of God, Jesus and Mary,[20] (Sura 5:116-117) in addition to speaking numerous contradictions of the Bible. <br /><br />Islamic apologists recognize these contradictions, and therefore charge that the Bible was tampered with, though the amount of alterations required to explain the Quranic deviations from Biblical text would require a significant amount of changes to the Old Testament and virtually a complete rewriting of the New.<br /><br />Christian apologists respond to these charges by evidencing that an abundance of manuscripts which predate the Quran yet exist,[14] such as the Codex Sinaiticus (c. 350 AD), with Aland numbering a total of 230 extant New Testament manuscript portions which pre-date 600 AD (192 Greek New Testament manuscripts, 5 Greek lectionaries containing scripture, and 33 translations of the Greek New Testament).[15][16] The doctrinal conflation of these with later manuscripts manifest that no such manner of alterations or rewriting took place. - <br /><br />From an article i wrote <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/The_Bible_versus_the_Qur%27an" rel="nofollow">here</a> (not the greatest apologetical site to be sure)<br /><br />This provides a side by side contrast btwn the Bible and the Qur'an in key areas. http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/JESUS.Vs.Muhammad.htmlPeaceByJesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08754948549904895669noreply@blogger.com