tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post8104660541067091675..comments2024-03-29T11:42:22.427-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Luther's Battle at the End of the WorldJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-43263824959543695232011-05-23T00:57:06.535-04:002011-05-23T00:57:06.535-04:00By the way, I saw CNN yesterday covering the Campi...<i>By the way, I saw CNN yesterday covering the Camping people. Since I don’t generally do TV, I was surprised that they had such numbers, because I always thought they were fringe fanatics.</i><br /><br />I don't know what their numbers are. It would be interesting to know pre and post May 21.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-35798020000938140722011-05-21T02:38:32.146-04:002011-05-21T02:38:32.146-04:00"My take is a bit different. I believe that t...<i>"My take is a bit different. I believe that the creation mandate is still in place …"</i><br /><br />By “last”, I didn’t mean “last day of existence,” but rather I meant “last day before the <i>parousia</i>.” My being convinced that the <i>parousia</i> could be in a week doesn’t stop me from pursuing my (rather ambitious) goals like a maniac. I am, in this, a bit of a psycho: I think like it <i>can</i> be the last day, and live like we have another 2000 millenia left.<br /><br />By the way, I saw CNN yesterday covering the Camping people. Since I don’t generally do TV, I was surprised that they had such numbers, because I always thought they were fringe fanatics.The 27th Comradehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08490992094734826485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-7989114609380041452011-05-20T23:54:08.848-04:002011-05-20T23:54:08.848-04:00Brigitte,
Do you think there are baptized Luthera...<i>Brigitte,<br /><br />Do you think there are baptized Lutherans in Hell?</i><br /><br />I'm going to assume this comment was left under the wrong post.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-27418535983329779552011-05-20T23:40:42.324-04:002011-05-20T23:40:42.324-04:00It has been necessary for Him to have each such ge...<i>It has been necessary for Him to have each such generation live as though it were the last.</i><br /><br />My take is a bit different. I believe that the creation mandate is still in place:<br /><br />Genesis 1:28<br />God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.<br /><br />This is what we are to do, all to the glory of God. God will usher in eternity in its fullness when he wishes to. Then it simply won't be Paradise "regained" or simply restored- but rather, Paradise as it was intended,to expand and come to it's perfect realization.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-86276405712196682602011-05-20T23:32:48.244-04:002011-05-20T23:32:48.244-04:00I never knew that Luther thought that his generati...<i>I never knew that Luther thought that his generation was the end-times generation. Knowing this explains so much of why Luther wrote what he did.</i><br /><br />I always assume this sort of stuff is general knowledge. Yes, it certainly did play a role in his later writings.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-2997312334431431182011-05-20T23:31:35.038-04:002011-05-20T23:31:35.038-04:00Wasn't it Luther who wrote that if the world w...<i>Wasn't it Luther who wrote that if the world was clearly going to end tomorrow he would go out and plant a tree today?</i><br /><br />I recall this being spurious, but I'd have to check.<br /><br />Indeed, each day is a gift, and could very well be my last.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-39945571954288181722011-05-20T19:22:50.431-04:002011-05-20T19:22:50.431-04:00Brigitte,
Do you think there are baptized Luthera...Brigitte,<br /><br />Do you think there are baptized Lutherans in Hell?Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-47693359209997137502011-05-20T16:51:28.897-04:002011-05-20T16:51:28.897-04:00It has been necessary for God to convince all gene...It has been necessary for God to convince all generations of believers—from the disciples to me, through Luther and Hal Lindsey—that their generation is the last. It has been necessary for Him to have each such generation live as though it were the last. It would be why this is the one event that is never foretold: so that any moment could be it, and so that those who expect the <i>parousia</i> can never rule out “tomorrow”, because there isn’t sufficient information for that to be done.<br /><br />For one, I am convinced that the <i>parousia</i> is imminent, and I can see that this is true. (I’m not as convinced of the need to shout this out loud, as does Camping, apparently.)<br /><br />Even the Jews are coming ‘round again to meeting Joseph the second time, after He has become “the man who is lord of the [Gentile] land”, where they would recognise Him as the one sent ahead of them to preserve life, the one they sold cheaply (in both cases, the transaction was at the hand of one “Judah”), and who Israel thought dead all along (even though he never saw the body!) while in fact this Joseph was alive and was ruling among the Gentiles … and so the Jews, surrounded by screaming, fighting Arabs, will be desperate to preserve their lives, and they will say of Jesus “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!”, and they will then have peace.<br /><br />It is the only way I can explain the troubles that are surrounding them now in their country (as the newspapers don’t stop reporting them): it is the famine of seven years.The 27th Comradehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08490992094734826485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-56901580681500544972011-05-20T14:09:52.621-04:002011-05-20T14:09:52.621-04:00Wow! Thanks for posting this James; I never knew ...Wow! Thanks for posting this James; I never knew that Luther thought that his generation was the end-times generation.<br /><br />Knowing this explains so much of why Luther wrote what he did.Truth Unites... and Divideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08891402278361538353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-35582398490115333552011-05-19T18:02:35.906-04:002011-05-19T18:02:35.906-04:00I am certain the end of the world is near at hand ...I am certain the end of the world is near at hand for me!<br /><br />I am certain that the end of the world has come already for three friends of mine seeing I attended all of their funerals just this last month!<br /><br />Wasn't it Luther who wrote that if the world was clearly going to end tomorrow he would go out and plant a tree today?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com