tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post7568679367298504797..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: When Suppressing Heresy Became a CrusadeJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-11016370300737490672010-06-30T16:49:05.003-04:002010-06-30T16:49:05.003-04:00Alexander, you need and deserve no explanation for...<i>Alexander, you need and deserve no explanation for anything I do.</i> <br /><br />Ditto.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-2974848061660038092010-06-30T16:47:16.944-04:002010-06-30T16:47:16.944-04:00John, don't make the mistake of puffing yourse...John, don't make the mistake of puffing yourself up by confusing an inability with a lack of desire on my part. <br /><br />As far as not being bright, I have transcripts and honors to prove otherwise. That being said, reality isn't really all that important to you when it goes against the narrative you have fabricated, hence we are back to you confusing an inability on my part with simply a lack of desire. I’m sure your personal attack fits in with the double standard which makes up the protestant ethic. Again, I’m sorry to have failed to recognize your sensitivity to references to your mustache.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-19425101198826049112010-06-30T08:56:50.639-04:002010-06-30T08:56:50.639-04:00Alexander, you need and deserve no explanation for...Alexander, you need and deserve no explanation for anything I do. <br /><br />You are to be pitied insofar as (a) your desire to call names is a very clear admission of your inability to interact otherwise with the material provided, and (b) you think this is a reason for beating your own chest. <br /><br />At any rate, do not make the mistake of thinking that you concern me. You are a bully, and not a very bright one at that. You are to be pitied.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-53909133345967622102010-06-30T08:40:43.022-04:002010-06-30T08:40:43.022-04:00A grown man who gets upset because he is refered t...A grown man who gets upset because he is refered to as Tom Selleck, or some other famous person due to the mere common variable of having a mustache pities me when he freely chooses to wear a mustache as a form of self-expression??? I really don't get it.<br /><br />So I guess I'm also very rude for calling Patrick Madrid "Mustache Madrid." And I shouldn't call Steve Ray "Safari Hat" either?<br /><br />Seriously, for the life of me I can't figure out why this is so insulting. I think it might have been different if the famous people I named shared another common variable other than a mustache. As far as I know, mustaches don't carry any social stigmas that say baldness or a mullet would. It's just me being silly. I've been criticized as being viciously rude, an evil spirit or spiritually inferior, and now worth being pitied for essentially calling you Mr. Mustache. Not something I would find to be a big deal or particularly rude. I'm just making good-natured light of it, not even a value judgment. Certainly, saying something like "What's with the aviator glasses Goose?" would probably be rude, and I don't think I've ever crossed that line.<br /><br />Since you have expressed your disaproval (and James Swan already expressed his) then I won't make anymore references to your mustache here. I'm sorry. I didn't think it was a big deal.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-90576849547286999972010-06-30T01:59:37.950-04:002010-06-30T01:59:37.950-04:00Alexander, I don't think you're funny or h...Alexander, I don't think you're funny or humorous in any way. More to be pitied.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-75317008438340273722010-06-29T21:57:12.922-04:002010-06-29T21:57:12.922-04:00I am afraid that I know very, very little about Lu...I am afraid that I know very, very little about Luther. For whatever reason, and maybe this is to my detriment, I am very uninterested in Luther's life or writings. I am willing to acknowledge the possibility of him being nasty and hateful towards others. If I were sucked backwards in time and found myself in Luther's study room as he wrote a vitriolic treatise, then I'd probably have him read 2 Timothy 2:22-26. But I don't know if he has said anything vitriolic.<br /><br />I hope John Bugay think it's funny. Maybe he does. All the same, my point wasn't to stop insulting him, it was that insulting him is indicative to me that you've not received the Spirit and that you should receive the Spirit. If you have received the Spirit, then you should obey it and extend grace even to those who do not deserve it (as you did not deserve it). Even if they write long articles in disagreement with your religious beliefs (as you were once in rebellion to God's "religious beliefs").<br /><br />I am sorry if I have been inconsistent in calling for living to the standard of conduct declared in God's word, but if the Holy Spirit lives in you, you should jump to obey God's word even if no one else does.<br /><br />Or maybe I am blowing all of this out of proportion? I hope I don't sound as severe as I think I sound. Golly.<br /><br />Love in Christ,<br />JLJohn Lollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15463317544726062051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-61043167837407897382010-06-29T21:51:24.325-04:002010-06-29T21:51:24.325-04:00Matthew, comparing me calling Bugay "Stossel&...<i>Matthew, comparing me calling Bugay "Stossel" to what Our Lord suffered proves to me that you lack the intellectual capacity necessary for a discussion.</i><br /><br />Alexander,<br /><br />That wasn't the comparison nor the purpose of my comments. It was responses on your part like the one right here I was driving at. There's no grace, only condescension and dismissal. It's habitual on your part. What does all this reveal about your heart and its commitments?Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784922935749497931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-36020680973737038352010-06-29T21:21:05.722-04:002010-06-29T21:21:05.722-04:00Matthew, comparing me calling Bugay "Stossel&...Matthew, comparing me calling Bugay "Stossel" to what Our Lord suffered proves to me that you lack the intellectual capacity necessary for a discussion.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-78174783631634096752010-06-29T21:17:27.927-04:002010-06-29T21:17:27.927-04:00Very telling concerning what exactly? John do you ...Very telling concerning what exactly? John do you consider what I've done (substituted famous mustaches for Bugay's name) to be worse than some of the name calling Luther engaged in, or that of the Church Fathers? Especially since the person to whom it has been directed at hasn't expressed any thoughts about it at all? For all we know, Bugay might be indifferent, humored or angered by it.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-82843792695676235652010-06-29T21:15:27.032-04:002010-06-29T21:15:27.032-04:00Alexander writes:
Matthew Shultz: Being a guest h...Alexander writes:<br /><br /><i>Matthew Shultz: Being a guest here is as welcoming as a Jew would feel in Hitler's Nazi Germany. Maybe as a guest I would react differently if my host wasn't so bent on slandering my family.</i><br /><br />That comparison does not do justice to the suffering the Jews endured under the Nazi regime. It suffers from some significant disconnects, one of which is why you would stay if this comparison is valid.<br /><br />Lollard is right to ask about fruits of the Holy Spirit. That you resort to such rhetoric shows you haven't worked the implications of the Gospel of grace into your life. A child of God understands that his Father needs no defending (even if it is right to do in some contexts), and having the Lord slandered produces sorrow and mercy for those who do it (because you want those mockers to come to salvation), rather than the extended mockery, exaggerated rhetoric and condescending tone you've issued (which suggests you don't care to extend to them the same grace you claim to have received).<br /><br />When you dismiss us as meaningless and worthless with your words and attitude you show us the natural outworking of a gospel of works-righteousness. You think your relationship to your denomination makes you superior to those who are not part of it, and especially to those who reject it or criticize it. You've done the right work to be in a state of grace, while the rest of us haven't and actively work against it. But if this relationship was truly based on unmerited grace understood in light of a deep and pervasive sinfulness, your attitude would be one of mercy and grace as well (Luke 7:47).Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784922935749497931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-21655381755400462382010-06-29T20:29:37.786-04:002010-06-29T20:29:37.786-04:00"Once you start showing some consistency in y..."Once you start showing some consistency in your outrage by taking on your fellow protestants when they engage in more serious name-calling and mockery, then maybe I will consider not further engaging in the little fun with Randy Johnson's stache."<br /><br />I don't recall being outraged. I recall pointing that your actions do not commend yourself to Christian behavior.<br /><br />I will gladly correct Protestants for engaging in mockery, and you can ask TF if you don't believe I've done it.<br /><br />I hope you will understand that I do have a slight bias which makes me less able to discern mocking comments to Catholics.<br /><br />I don't follow Triablogue and I have no idea who Constantine is, unless you mean the Roman Emperor. If it seems like I've made this a "big deal", then I must have misrepresented myself, as it's not a big deal, just a very telling deal.<br /><br />Love in Christ,<br />JLJohn Lollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15463317544726062051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-67255081003472071262010-06-29T19:50:03.044-04:002010-06-29T19:50:03.044-04:00I don't have any problem with knocking it off....I don't have any problem with knocking it off. However, will Constantine or anyone else who mocks or engages in name calling against Catholics also be banned James?Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-33179957747006663332010-06-29T19:01:41.840-04:002010-06-29T19:01:41.840-04:00How about this. Once you start showing some consis...<i>How about this. Once you start showing some consistency in your outrage by taking on your fellow protestants when they engage in more serious name-calling and mockery, then maybe I will consider not further engaging in the little fun with Randy Johnson's stache.</i><br /><br />How about this: knock it off, or you'll be banned from this blog. The choice is yours.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-54634403571931821652010-06-29T18:46:07.289-04:002010-06-29T18:46:07.289-04:00John Lollard
I haven't seen you correct Const...John Lollard<br /><br />I haven't seen you correct Constantine for his name-calling against Matthew Bellisario.<br /><br />Does "inventing insulting titles for people is one of the fruits of the Spirit" apply to protestants as well? Or do corrections only extend to Catholics? <br /><br />Since you pretend to be the moral police, I have not seen anyone of you correct Constantine, or any one of the other protestant bloggers. Would you like to go through Triablogue? <br /><br />https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=19795707&postID=1994236754020000996<br /><br />Besides, if White Goodman has a problem with it, why hasn't he said anything? Trying to turn this into such a big deal is a bit immature.<br /><br />How about this. Once you start showing some consistency in your outrage by taking on your fellow protestants when they engage in more serious name-calling and mockery, then maybe I will consider not further engaging in the little fun with Randy Johnson's stache.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-29744644932276992572010-06-29T18:01:05.076-04:002010-06-29T18:01:05.076-04:00Alexander, I can't understand why you think it...Alexander, I can't understand why you think it is so important to include a mocking reference to John's mustache every single time you post. I'll give you credit that you're being very original in thinking up a new mockery every time, but I'm not so sure that cleverness in inventing insulting titles for people is one of the fruits of the Spirit, or really anything that people pretending to be Christians should glory themselves in.<br /><br />I'm not so sure who your family is, but it can't be those who do God's will who are your mothers, sisters and brothers.<br /><br />Or if denigrating certain facial hair styles is God's will... then I have no idea what god you serve. It is my hope that you will turn to serve the true God, who bore insults from the Jewish councils and who gives His people a new heart that enables them to love and seek the truth... not just make childish jabs at people they disagree with.<br /><br />Love in Christ,<br />John LollardJohn Lollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15463317544726062051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-73915298349969731252010-06-29T17:41:39.357-04:002010-06-29T17:41:39.357-04:00By all means don't take me seriously. I don...By all means don't take me seriously. I don't take any of you seriously. I've stopped doing that when I became aware several years that none of you take truth very seriously.<br /><br />Matthew Shultz: Being a guest here is as welcoming as a Jew would feel in Hitler's Nazi Germany. Maybe as a guest I would react differently if my host wasn't so bent on slandering my family.<br /><br />Ron Burgundy: The "book review/copyright infringement snorefest" was clearly meant to be facetious. I have to admit though that even my facetious comments are answered by you for the most part.<br /><br />Turretinfan: Shouldn't you be busy posting a response on how Turretinfan and good ol' Pastor King don't let Augustine be Augustine? <br /><br />https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21597890&postID=1105783959792418280<br /><br />James Swan: It has already been done. Google settled.<br /><br />See: The Authors Guild, Inc., et al. v. Google Inc., Case No. 05 CV 8136 (S.D.N.Y.)Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-43971291956498090412010-06-29T11:39:16.338-04:002010-06-29T11:39:16.338-04:00As a test, perhaps Alexander could launch a lawsui...As a test, perhaps Alexander could launch a lawsuit against Google Books.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-71386837377153782492010-06-29T11:37:44.063-04:002010-06-29T11:37:44.063-04:00I don't. But just in case anyone else is watch...I don't. But just in case anyone else is watching, I wanted to respond on the copyright thing.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-87296522919057462372010-06-29T11:36:41.361-04:002010-06-29T11:36:41.361-04:00You shouldn't really take Alexander's comm...You shouldn't really take Alexander's comments seriously.Turretinfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802277110253897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-70041031185712406412010-06-29T09:11:17.481-04:002010-06-29T09:11:17.481-04:00I would only be concerned about it if Paul Johnson...I would only be concerned about it if Paul Johnson's lawyers were to contact us and ask us to take down the texts. As it is, we are not using it for commercial purposes, and there is "fair use" etc. I've published maybe 20 of the 500 pages, and that for educational purposes.<br /><br />At any rate, the entire text of the work is freely available online, in the form of the .pdf that I found, and possibly at other sources. So we are the least of their concerns.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-3724072994820875422010-06-29T08:49:15.120-04:002010-06-29T08:49:15.120-04:00You're a guest here, Alexander. Why don't...You're a guest here, Alexander. Why don't you demonstrate some maturity and act like it?Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12784922935749497931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-73003073421609790422010-06-29T06:44:47.298-04:002010-06-29T06:44:47.298-04:00Since when has this blog become a book review/copy...Since when has this blog become a book review/copyright infringement snorefest? Apparently, since Paul Blart decided completely take over.Alexander Grecohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18317035068895563791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-41194982865095655462010-06-29T05:52:25.462-04:002010-06-29T05:52:25.462-04:00MikeB: maybe not.MikeB: maybe not.John Bugayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728044301053738095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-90423767561514375192010-06-28T17:11:33.856-04:002010-06-28T17:11:33.856-04:00I take it your not a fan of "God's Battal...I take it your not a fan of "God's Battalions" by Rodney Stark?mikebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06947509425403456046noreply@blogger.com