tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post6134158655732282680..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Calvin on the Death of Non-Elect Infants and the Age of AccountabilityJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-75018664161050265872013-09-13T18:23:29.105-04:002013-09-13T18:23:29.105-04:00Westmister Confession of Faith sums it up concisel...Westmister Confession of Faith sums it up concisely and precisely Ch 10:3 - Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ through the Spirit. The sin of Adam is imputed at conception (Ps 51:5), and as the wages of sin is death, we see miscarriages and stillbirths. Who exactly are saved? The elect infants. Who are they? Humble yourselves O ye sinner man. Let the Sovereign God be thy LORD God, and He saves Whom He pleases (remember Jacob and Esau in Romans 9). Infants can be quicken in their mothers'womb as proven in Jer 1:5 and Luke 1:41. So all ye pregnant mothers of the faith, bring your children to hear true preachings and sing unto them. Who knows if the blessed Holy Spirit would quicken and sealed them for all eternity.Jade Kwanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13744481330626209526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-11765526287528974052013-09-10T22:05:01.535-04:002013-09-10T22:05:01.535-04:00Federal Headship is the issue!
My 24 year old da...Federal Headship is the issue! <br /><br />My 24 year old daughter was born normal and suffered seizures at 6 months and has permanent brain damage. She has no verbal ability and functions cognitively on the level of an 18 month old. <br /><br />Lutheran baptism by parental Monergism is not settling for us being Reformed Baptist. Covenantal Baptism does not assure inclusion.<br /><br />She has attended church with us on a regular basis since infancy. We can only leave her in the hands of the one who judges with all righteousness. TomiPadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11787397005255585655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-60494263686168681202013-09-10T18:41:35.653-04:002013-09-10T18:41:35.653-04:00It seems that Dr. Webb argued that Calvin taught t...It seems that Dr. Webb argued that Calvin taught that no reprobate can die as infants. The reprobate infant's original sin must be actualized first. Consequently, every infant who dies is considered elect.<br /><br />Personally, the assertions above need to be supported by biblical exegesis. Haven't seen how the belief above can be derived from the Bible. Anyone?Joey Henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04383054573751843392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-21257670239145923422013-09-10T11:08:04.755-04:002013-09-10T11:08:04.755-04:00Hi James,
Fascinating find as usual. I'm not...Hi James,<br /><br />Fascinating find as usual. I'm not sure, however, that an age of accountability follows from the data--at least no specific age.<br /><br />All we would be able to safely conclude is that *at some point in time* the reprobate procure their own reprobation and are thereby held accountable. There is no way to infer from this a specific, one-size-fits-all age of accountability. It is quite possible that the exact point in time (known but to God alone) varies from person to person unlike a specific "age" of accountability.<br /><br />The flip side must entail some sort of belief in the non-imputation of Adam's guilt to the elect infant. <br /><br />For my money, any view that says God *must* save one group and/or *can't* save another runs headlong into the Potter's freedom. I much prefer to leave it up the God of the universe who will do right in each and every case.<br /><br />Mike Taylor<br /><br /><br />Michael Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15959325406204766596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-66968438080323138932013-09-10T09:31:55.469-04:002013-09-10T09:31:55.469-04:00I do not know why Mr. Swan allows you to be a blog...<i>I do not know why Mr. Swan allows you to be a blog contributor here.</i><br /><br />Well, that makes two of us.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-74097306434256477362013-09-10T09:31:28.759-04:002013-09-10T09:31:28.759-04:00I'm not all that young. ;-)
But I take "z...I'm not all that young. ;-)<br />But I take "zealous" as a compliment - thank you. I call 'em like I see 'em. If the early Calvinists believed in magic too, so much the worse for their infallibility. Fortunately, they didn't claim infallibility.Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-57680454211480449012013-09-10T01:53:31.994-04:002013-09-10T01:53:31.994-04:00And if Rhology thinks himself a "Calvinist&qu...And if Rhology thinks himself a "Calvinist", then let him read what the real Calvinists believed about Holy Baptism:<br /><br />http://www.letterofmarque.us/2013/08/baptism-quotes-who-said-it.htmlNicholas Leonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17069813028795565883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-41720448392307175712013-09-10T01:30:30.440-04:002013-09-10T01:30:30.440-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Nicholas Leonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17069813028795565883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-37402992498431477012013-09-09T14:16:53.243-04:002013-09-09T14:16:53.243-04:00pregnant mothers are encouraged to hear the Word a...<i>pregnant mothers are encouraged to hear the Word and receive the Sacrament often, not only for their own spiritual welfare, but for their unborn baby as well</i><br /><br />Magic. Rhologyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245825667079220242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-25506798131378881482013-09-09T10:42:02.239-04:002013-09-09T10:42:02.239-04:00The best answer I've heard (this was about sti...The best answer I've heard (this was about still-born babies and those who died before baptism) was there were three options 1) all babies of Christian parents were heirs of salvation 2) some were and some weren't according to God's predestination and 3) all were lost in their sin and damned. I've always felt uncomfortable with the modern assumption that miscarried or stillborn (and aborted) are automatically in heaven, since we do confess that "into sin my mother conceived me." Rev. Jonathan Fisk has suggested all three could be faithful interpretations of Scripture, and parents do best to cling to God's promises, leaving the unknown to Him, who works everything to good.<br /><br />(I'm Lutheran, and practically, pregnant mothers are encouraged to hear the Word and receive the Sacrament often, not only for their own spiritual welfare, but for their unborn baby as well, trusting in God for the fetus's physical and spiritual safety. Not sure how other traditions view this.)<br />Katyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00238246037896274014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-28079472535934404762013-09-09T09:42:17.563-04:002013-09-09T09:42:17.563-04:00Hello folks.
One basic belief every Christian oug...Hello folks.<br /><br />One basic belief every Christian ought to have is a belief in God's absolute goodness. <br /><br />How can one call God "good" if he predetermined babies to eternally burn in the lake of fire?<br /><br />Given the truth of Calvinism, words such as "love", "goodness" and "justice" completely lose their meaning.<br /><br /><br />For God's sake, I urge you to give up this devilish doctrine. <br /><br />I hope my post will be published for I don't despise you in any way, I'm just sad. <br /><br />Lovely greetings from France and Germany. <br />Lothars Sohn – Lothar’s son<br />http://lotharlorraine.wordpress.com<br /><br />Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08328792937888689350noreply@blogger.com