tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post5721389646109174220..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: The Quotable Sippo #12James Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-22221694112072556872011-04-28T22:42:10.435-04:002011-04-28T22:42:10.435-04:00This excessive pessimism is behind the Protestant ...<i>This excessive pessimism is behind the Protestant idea of "Total Depravity".</i><br /><br />Rom 4:16 "Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace..."<br /><br />The gospel is symultaneously the most pessimistic and optimistic worldview in existence. If it's not both, then it's not the gospel. JBFA is more optimistic than then Rome's gospel, so even if Luther was more depressed at first, he was more optimistic in the end. Take your pick.<br /><br />Catholics aren't haunted by their sin, nor is anyone, who doesn't fully understand the holiness of God in the law of God, as Luther did. The one who's not haunted by their sin fails to grasp how holy God is and how unholy they are, thus are self-deluted. As the saying goes "ignorance is bliss", and a works righteousness system caters to that ignorant bliss.<br /><br />Yet God's law shows that one infraction means eternal seperation from God, just like with Satan and Adam (Gal 3:10, Ja 2:10).<br /><br />If Luther was phsycologicaly depressed it was simply because he was more honest about the holiness of God, and the severity of his sin than others. It's better to be honest and depressed, than happy believing a lie. The one who's honest actually has the chance of then being the most optimistic in Christ, while the other does not.Cameronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16022158276995943825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-86556660041062192892011-04-20T19:56:35.658-04:002011-04-20T19:56:35.658-04:00I greatly disagree with Sippo. It is not mental il...I greatly disagree with Sippo. It is not mental illness that leads one to Protestantism, it is the Roman Catholic Church which leads to mental illness. That is of course, if you want to see someone who was one of the most devout Roman Catholics out there find Christ (Luther).<br /><br />I would like to add, it is the RCC that promotes a self-centered view on life. An Evangelical recognizes that Christ has set him free of all of his sins and is now capable of preaching the Gospel to the whole world without fear of any kind.<br /><br />Praise His Majesty!zipper778https://www.blogger.com/profile/03461482876486910840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-40238814137746911922011-04-20T08:02:03.792-04:002011-04-20T08:02:03.792-04:00Or like John Bunyan put it in Pilgrim's Progre...Or like John Bunyan put it in Pilgrim's Progress - "Christian" addressing Pelagian-minded "Ignorance":<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Pilgrim%27s_Progress/Part_I/Section_5#.5BIgnorance_again.5D" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Pilgrim%27s_Progress/Part_I/Section_5#.5BIgnorance_again.5D</a><br /><br />"How! think thou must believe in Christ, when thou seest not thy need of him! <br /><br />Thou neither seest thy original nor actual infirmities; but hast such an opinion of thyself, and of what thou doest, as plainly renders thee to be one that did never see the necessity of Christ’s personal righteousness to justify thee before God."Viisaushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02682159289133730565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-34164993803807887502011-04-20T06:21:54.704-04:002011-04-20T06:21:54.704-04:00Yes, Dr. Sippo, sin really is THAT bad. Luther got...Yes, Dr. Sippo, sin really is THAT bad. Luther got it. Apparently you don't.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15056210915546208869noreply@blogger.com