tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post5617758159183891166..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Charles Spurgeon and the Hyper-PreteristsJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-30378249442958491472012-06-06T15:49:12.297-04:002012-06-06T15:49:12.297-04:00To my mind the crux of the matter here is this: Mr...<i>To my mind the crux of the matter here is this: Mr. Spurgeon agreed (at least to some degree) that the NH&E was a new DISPENSATION and not the destruction and re-creation of the material universe..</i><br /><br />Frank and Michael Loomis:<br /><br />I only have a minute at the moment, so I'll begin with this sentence. Do you have any proof that Spurgeon did not believe in "the destruction and re-creation of the material universe"?<br /><br />Hope you are well, Frank. Denise and I think of you often.<br /><br />Regards, JSJames Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-47830909060069659972012-06-05T12:24:19.716-04:002012-06-05T12:24:19.716-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02582826363707856729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-23922896107946791802012-06-05T12:23:58.345-04:002012-06-05T12:23:58.345-04:00Frank Speer:
To my mind the crux of the matter h...Frank Speer: <br /><br />To my mind the crux of the matter here is this: Mr. Spurgeon agreed (at least to some degree) that the NH&E was a new DISPENSATION and not the destruction and re-creation of the material universe... <br /><br />"...these were like THE OLD HEAVENS AND EARTH to the Jewish believers, THEY HAVE PASSED AWAY, and WE NOW LIVE UNDER A NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH, so far as the dispensation of divine teaching is concerned."<br /><br />Even if Mr S. DID believe in the creation of a yet future UTOPIAN UNIVERSE, Full Preterists often make use of this quote simply because it lends a modicum of legitimacy and credibility to understanding the New Covenant as THE NH&E. - Again, whether or not Mr. S. viewed this New Covenant Era as the ONLY NH&E is another story.<br /><br />When the New H&E are viewed AS the New Covenant replacing the Old Covenant (i.e. Christianity replacing Judaism) Jesus' words can then be easily understood to be referencing Israel passing from one covenant relationship with God into another - rather than a future destruction of the cosmos.<br /><br />Notice that Jesus' words are clearly in the context of the soon to be outmoded Mosaic Economy (after all - that is what He came to fulfill and exchange)...<br /><br />(Mat 5:17 NASB) "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.<br /><br />(Mat 5:18 NASB) "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the Law, until all is accomplished.<br /><br />(Mat 5:19 NASB) "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and so teaches others, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.<br /><br />(Mat 24:35 NASB) "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away.<br /><br />frank speerAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02582826363707856729noreply@blogger.com