tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post1726758178726748577..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Martin Luther QuizJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-7938864404030011172007-11-02T21:26:00.000-04:002007-11-02T21:26:00.000-04:00Luther told the princes and the nobility (referrin...<I>Luther told the princes and the nobility (referring to peasants) that it was right and lawful to slay at the first opportunity a rebellious person, "just as one must slay a mad dog…Let all who are able, cut them down, slaughter and stab them, openly or in secret, and remember that there is nothing more poisonous, noxious and utterly devilish than a rebel... For we are come upon such strange times that a prince may more easily win heaven by the shedding of blood than others by prayers."</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.freewill-predestination.com/radical.html<BR/><BR/>It is very interesting that none of the Magesterial Reformers (Zwingli, Calvin, Luther) were martyred, but rather they caused many anabaptists to be martyred.<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>From 1525 Zwingli persecuted Anabaptists mercilessly with imprisonment, torture, banishment and death. The Anabaptist leader, Felix Manz, was drowned. Under Zwingli's influence, penalties of drowning, burning or beheading were decreed by the Council.</I><BR/><BR/><I>John Calvin wrote to England's King Henry VIII recommending that Anabaptists be burned as an example to other Englishmen: 'It is far better that two or three be burned than thousands perish in Hell.'</I><BR/><BR/>Luther was already mentioned above. How bloodthirsty the New Rome (the Magesterial Reformers) were.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-92056459413158886772007-11-02T19:18:00.000-04:002007-11-02T19:18:00.000-04:00They're all anabaptist killing heretics, so who ca...They're all anabaptist killing heretics, so who cares.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-67759924000308156272007-11-02T17:00:00.000-04:002007-11-02T17:00:00.000-04:00"It is time that we distance ourselves from histor..."It is time that we distance ourselves from historic events and assure that they are often better understood and evoked."<BR/>This partially explains recent Catholic attempts at distancing Trent from the events of the Reformation, so far as to declare that Trent did not anathematize Luther, his followers or those who came later in the Reformation.Lockheedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05433104440503646253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-87283100985178690132007-11-02T16:34:00.000-04:002007-11-02T16:34:00.000-04:00Maybe it was JPII?Correct. The quotes are from a l...<I>Maybe it was JPII?</I><BR/><BR/>Correct. <BR/><BR/>The quotes are from a letter to the president of the Pontifical Secretariat for the Union of Christians, Johannes Cardinal Willebrands, from JP II, Oct. 31, 1983.<BR/><BR/>The full text is here:<BR/>http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/letters/1983/documents/hf_jp-ii_let_19831031_card-willebrands_it.htmlJames Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-32812207468404291702007-11-02T16:25:00.000-04:002007-11-02T16:25:00.000-04:00My gut says B16, but from your response to kmerian...My gut says B16, but from your response to kmerian I'm guessing it ain't.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it was JPII?Your Humble Reviewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02761676705455430009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-17874714888906837012007-11-02T15:53:00.000-04:002007-11-02T15:53:00.000-04:00not bad- you're in the right ballpark. It was a Ca...not bad- you're in the right ballpark. It was a Catholic.<BR/><BR/>Both answers though are wrong.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-33710572154508319212007-11-02T15:49:00.000-04:002007-11-02T15:49:00.000-04:00Well, I did not cheat, so I am going to offer two ...Well, I did not cheat, so I am going to offer two possibilities.<BR/><BR/>Fulton Sheen<BR/><BR/>Joseph Ratzinger<BR/><BR/>I see similarities to both their writing styles.kmerianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11096693234053975595noreply@blogger.com