tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post114278090325240146..comments2024-03-22T16:09:48.895-04:00Comments on Beggars All: Reformation And Apologetics: Outrageous Luther Quotes: Patrick O'Hare's "Facts About LutherJames Swanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-1143409111183955382006-03-26T16:38:00.000-05:002006-03-26T16:38:00.000-05:00testtestJames Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-1143404064923288542006-03-26T15:14:00.000-05:002006-03-26T15:14:00.000-05:00testtestJames Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-1142853818662514222006-03-20T06:23:00.000-05:002006-03-20T06:23:00.000-05:00Ray-The guy who posted the O'Hare quotes has his o...Ray-<BR/><BR/>The guy who posted the O'Hare quotes has his own blog, and I tried to reason with him about his usage of O'Hare-<BR/><BR/>http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2006/02/church-fathers-luther-tabletalk.html<BR/><BR/>His comments on Luther are a perfect example of your point. He says,<BR/><BR/><I>"The time is long over due for the myth of Luther to be exposed. Far too many sincere and well-intentioned people have been misled by the errors of Luther. Let us look past the facade of flowery commentary to the evidence of his writings, wherein Luther is exposed and condemned by his own words. "for by thy own words thou shalt be justified, and by thy own words thou shalt be condemned" (Mt. 12:37).</I><BR/><BR/><I>"It is true that if one reads his writings, he seems to have, what we today call, Bipolar.</I><BR/><BR/>What's true, is that the guy who wrote these words hasn't really read that much of Luther's writings. He read primarily O'Hare, and an on-line version of the Tabletalk.James Swanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16136781934797867593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19795707.post-1142792457264352972006-03-19T13:20:00.000-05:002006-03-19T13:20:00.000-05:00Jim,The way most Catholics continue to cite O'Hare...Jim,<BR/><BR/>The way most Catholics continue to cite O'Hare as if he were presenting real "facts" is what really gets me. They never bother to corroborate it in any way, but merely assent to O'Hare's polemics as truth, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. And, when you attempt to tell them differently, giving them the context of Luther's statements, and putting the proper face on Luther, their own prejudices appear, thus, O'Hare's book is merely gratifying their own misconceptions--those they wish to keep. <BR/><BR/>Blind leading the blind, bro...blind leading the blind ;-)<BR/><BR/>Peace,<BR/>RayChurchmousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13521990026485330450noreply@blogger.com