The encounter was sparked by a Lutheran implying that the various Lutheran denominations are theologically unified in all areas. It was stated that Lutherans and the Reformed have no common ground because the Reformed can't even define the gospel among themselves. In response I posted a link from a Lutheran website entitled, A Statement on Justification from the ACLC. The link discusses a dispute among Lutheran denominations about Justification. In other words, the Lutheran making this argument against the Reformed was presenting a bogus argument. Here was the response:
Maybe the Lutherans aren't unified in all areas of doctrine but at least the confessional Lutherans are unified in what the gospel is. You reformed can't say that can you? Not even the confessional reformed can say that.
I provided a response here and here about the unity of Reformed churches. The point of this blog post though is ELDoNA. Here is where it is asserted that ELDoNA is not a confessional Lutheran church:
In an earlier post you pointed out a disunity among lutherans sighting the paper from the ACLC (?) against the ELDoNA on their interpretaion of objective and subjective faith. You assumed that ELDoNA is a confessional lutheran church and declared my argument invalid. I could say with just as much validity that they are not confessional and leave it at that or maybe even further argue the point.
I then responded:
I don't know the history of either the ASLC or the ELDoNA. Regardless, it is ironic to me that I was very easily able to find a intra-Lutheran debate on the very topic you claimed Lutherans were united on. I could also cite the recent flare up between Rev. Rydecki and WELS. Rev. Rydecki says, "Because I am convinced from the Holy Scriptures that the Lutheran Church, as defined by the Book of Concord of 1580, has preserved the doctrine and practice of the catholic faith as taught by the Apostles, I am a Lutheran." WELS wants nothing to do with him because of his view of justification. Rydecki is now ELDONA and they claim, "The Evangelical Lutheran Diocese of North America is committed to the restoration and advancement of consistently Evangelical Lutheran doctrine and practice in harmony with the Sacred Scriptures and the Book of Concord (1580)." So, I still say when I take your argument and apply it your very words, you refute your own words: "How can we [sic] common ground on what the gospel even is when the reformed can't even define it amongst themselves?"
This little encounter inspired this Lutheran to post this discussion: The ACLC is confessional, ELDoNA is not. My response is there as well:
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