No, that's not what St. Paul meant!
He said "forbid marriage". RC priests are forbidden to marry.
Interestingly, Paul told us that presbuteroi are supposed to be one-woman men. Not no-woman men or many-boys men.
a. The Roman Church has NO “doctrine” forbidding anyone to marry - marriage is a sacrament open to all.
Except priests. Do you think we're idiots or something?
b. God has always called certain individuals to the celibate life in order that they may serve him unreservedly.
What's your point? That's a matter between the individual and God, not to be mandated by the church.
c. The Church has every right to set rules and conditions pertaining to the priesthood
If you say so. But they violate the biblical commandment. Apparently they have "every right" to do that, too.
And currently she has chosen to accept candidates for priestly ordination only from among those who have this gift of celibacy
And if the RCC does it, it has to be right! B/c Christ founded it! Matthew 16! Blah!!!
Why do Protestants forbid celibacy to their clergy, when the very Apostles SS. Peter and Paul and their successors - St. Timothy e.g. - were prime examples of a celibate clergy??
1) You have no proof Timothy was celibate.
2) Paul CHOSE to be celibate. RCC MANDATES its clergy be celibate.
3) Peter was married. Fail.
4) Paul was an apostle, not a presbuteros.
Re: perpetual abstinence in marriage is unbiblical - “Else, they cannot be one flesh. 1 Cor 7: 3.”
Well, that’s certainly what, with perhaps a couple of exceptions, Protestants believe.
Yeah, that's so crazy, that Protestants might just believe what the Bible teaches.
(Beza said:) We cannot expect people today to live chastely in a sexless marriage, as if they were ‘new Josephs and Marys.’”
1) Beza is not a Protestant Pope. I can't believe you people can't get that through your heads.
2) Sexless marriages are indeed violations of the command of 1 Corinthians 7 and the various other descriptions of marriage as "one FLESH". Hard to be one FLESH when you're --ahem-- not, you know, one flesh.
“The traditional option of maintaining a sexless ‘spiritual marriage’ was anathema to Calvin.”
Awesome. Good for Calvin. Another reason to like the guy.
One comment in Beza's biography has not served Calvin well, and that was the suggestion that he and Idelette had a sexless marriage, adhering to chastity.
I can't believe it! Calvin might have actually been a sinner?
Sorry, we can't allow that kind of trash to sully the pages of this blog. Our team will have a meeting later to determine whether we should delete this comment and also ban all RCs from commenting. Forever.
“So if you can manage it, you shouldn’t touch your partner, except for the sake of having children.” Sermon 278:9:3,
I can imagine nothing so bizarre to as to suggest that a church writer 3 centuries after the Bible was written might say something unbiblical or incorrect.